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janie_tangerine) wrote2012-04-23 01:08 pm
janie_tangerine) wrote2012-04-23 01:08 pm
Entry tags:
game of thrones 2x04, garden of bones
Okay, this review is flooded with book spoilers so I'm going to spoiler-cut them, but still thread carefully.
1. Point the first: the Robb thing is leaving me very, very, very baffled. Or better: Robb isn't leaving me baffled at all, he's being himself. It's what they're doing with Girl Whose Name I Didn't Catch But Should Not Be The One She Gave Him that leaves me perplexed.
Soooo, uh. I hope that this girl is Jeyne and that she's trolling Robb big time while giving in to her nurse instincts and happily amputating feet. I don't really mind that she's a bit more sassy than she was in the books if it's her, but.
She can't be some random girl from VOLANTIS (wtf, why anyone from Volantis would even be in the Westerlands) because otherwise why the fuck should he marry her? Show!Robb is a lot more savvy than his book counterpart, and the book counterpart married Jeyne Westerling and threw away the Frey alliance and proceeded to DOOM HIMSELF because having sex with a lord's daughter when she's a maiden and leaving her behind is ~dishonorable~. The end.and he had sex with her because of Theon's betrayal but LET'S NOT GET INTO THAT The point is that he's his father's son. Now, if this isn't Jeyne but Some Other Girl From Volantis, she's no highborn lady and no one would give a damn about her maidenhead one way or the other. If Robb has grief driven sex with her after Theon betrays him and then marries her, he isn't committing a political suicide because of ~honor~ (which well, hi, suits with the character) but he's committing a political suicide without any darned good reason to. And sorry but while Robb is an honorable idiot, he isn't completely fucking stupid. Especially in the show version where he doesn't have the excuse of being sixteen.
Shortly: if it turns out that it was ~Jeyne~ in disguise and it goes the way it's supposed to then fine, if they're changing that part completely...uuuuuuh. I won't like it.
2. Only other thing that I didn't like: LF telling Cat that she could trade her daughters for Jaime. Who read the book knows what I'm talking about.
3. Wait, also Brienne had no lines. Sigh. More, please.
4. Catelyn is flawless. End of story. Gosh when she saw Ned's bones ;__; Michelle Fairley, how so good? Also I'd have liked if she had put that dagger in LF's throat *cough* but eeeh.
5. Seeing Margaery put down LF was glorious.
6. Cat being like 'if you two were my sons I'd bang your heads together' at Stannis & Renly = YES THANKS. Ffs I get that Stannis isn't the most likable person ever but Renly had the least valid claim of the entire group of self-declared kings and while the show hasn't expanded on the sucky treatment Stannis got from both Robert and Renly previously, if I were him I'd be rightfully pissed.
7. Mel's shadow baby was creepy. Also I need to never see any labor on any show ever again - ugh.
8. DAAAAVOS YOU'RE SO VERY LOYAL TO A FAULT AND YOU LOVE STANNIS SO MUCH LET ME LOVE YOU. ♥
9. Harrnhaal was perfect. ALL OF IT. ALL OF IT. The Brotherhood mentions! The people from the Brave Companions! Arya and her prayer ;___; and Gendryyy and Hot Pie ;___; also, it confirmed me the one reason why I can't really completely hate Tywin: he as a fucking brain and he uses it, differently from his bannermen. Seriously.
10. Tyrion pwning Lancel = yes. YES. Also woah, the guy playing Lancel manages to be prettier than Finn Jones, I keep on thinking that he's a woman whenever I see him for one second.
11. Peter Dinklage, awards.
12. That scene where Joffrey had the KG beat Sansa was - ugh, every bit as painful as I thought it would be. Also UGH SANDOR'S CLOAK ON HER I just - okay. I can't possibly deal with the feelings.
13. Okay so, point made, Joffrey is a pro sadist. And as some people said, is Ros the only whore in KL? *facepalm* the fact that she's so prominent is making me seriously consider a crackpot theory that popped up in my head ages ago while talking to![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
lenina20 I thin, which... well, I sincerely hope that I'm wrong about it because it would be a fuck up of huge size. :///// But it's all book related so I'll shut my mouth.
14. Iain Glen is too hot for the desert, too hot for starving and too hot for anything. And that's sadly all I have to say for now about Dany's storyline.
15. Don't get me wrong, I liked it but in comparison to the flawlessness that was last week's episode this one kind of paled in comparison. Also needed more Brienne.
16. And I had more things to say but class calls. Sigh.
1. Point the first: the Robb thing is leaving me very, very, very baffled. Or better: Robb isn't leaving me baffled at all, he's being himself. It's what they're doing with Girl Whose Name I Didn't Catch But Should Not Be The One She Gave Him that leaves me perplexed.
She can't be some random girl from VOLANTIS (wtf, why anyone from Volantis would even be in the Westerlands) because otherwise why the fuck should he marry her? Show!Robb is a lot more savvy than his book counterpart, and the book counterpart married Jeyne Westerling and threw away the Frey alliance and proceeded to DOOM HIMSELF because having sex with a lord's daughter when she's a maiden and leaving her behind is ~dishonorable~. The end.
Shortly: if it turns out that it was ~Jeyne~ in disguise and it goes the way it's supposed to then fine, if they're changing that part completely...uuuuuuh. I won't like it.
2. Only other thing that I didn't like: LF telling Cat that she could trade her daughters for Jaime. Who read the book knows what I'm talking about.
3. Wait, also Brienne had no lines. Sigh. More, please.
4. Catelyn is flawless. End of story. Gosh when she saw Ned's bones ;__; Michelle Fairley, how so good? Also I'd have liked if she had put that dagger in LF's throat *cough* but eeeh.
5. Seeing Margaery put down LF was glorious.
6. Cat being like 'if you two were my sons I'd bang your heads together' at Stannis & Renly = YES THANKS. Ffs I get that Stannis isn't the most likable person ever but Renly had the least valid claim of the entire group of self-declared kings and while the show hasn't expanded on the sucky treatment Stannis got from both Robert and Renly previously, if I were him I'd be rightfully pissed.
7. Mel's shadow baby was creepy. Also I need to never see any labor on any show ever again - ugh.
8. DAAAAVOS YOU'RE SO VERY LOYAL TO A FAULT AND YOU LOVE STANNIS SO MUCH LET ME LOVE YOU. ♥
9. Harrnhaal was perfect. ALL OF IT. ALL OF IT. The Brotherhood mentions! The people from the Brave Companions! Arya and her prayer ;___; and Gendryyy and Hot Pie ;___; also, it confirmed me the one reason why I can't really completely hate Tywin: he as a fucking brain and he uses it, differently from his bannermen. Seriously.
10. Tyrion pwning Lancel = yes. YES. Also woah, the guy playing Lancel manages to be prettier than Finn Jones, I keep on thinking that he's a woman whenever I see him for one second.
11. Peter Dinklage, awards.
12. That scene where Joffrey had the KG beat Sansa was - ugh, every bit as painful as I thought it would be. Also UGH SANDOR'S CLOAK ON HER I just - okay. I can't possibly deal with the feelings.
13. Okay so, point made, Joffrey is a pro sadist. And as some people said, is Ros the only whore in KL? *facepalm* the fact that she's so prominent is making me seriously consider a crackpot theory that popped up in my head ages ago while talking to
lenina20 I thin, which... well, I sincerely hope that I'm wrong about it because it would be a fuck up of huge size. :///// But it's all book related so I'll shut my mouth.14. Iain Glen is too hot for the desert, too hot for starving and too hot for anything. And that's sadly all I have to say for now about Dany's storyline.
15. Don't get me wrong, I liked it but in comparison to the flawlessness that was last week's episode this one kind of paled in comparison. Also needed more Brienne.
16. And I had more things to say but class calls. Sigh.
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It's always the 'Ros might get the Jeyne Poole storyline' since she's the one having horrible experiences while being trained by LF, and since Jeyne Poole is nowhere it's not like there's someone else from the North to whom Theon has any sort of emotional attachment that they can use for his adwd stuff. But there's the part where no one could pass Ros off for Arya, so. I just hope I'm wrong.
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Though tbh my main worry about it, regardless of the rest, is that if Ros becomes Jeyne they cheapen half of what was going on with Theon in that part and I'm not sure I can be much okay with that. I wrote someone a novel about it in a comment below, but it's mostly that when Theon saves Jeyne he gets the (partially) redemptive gesture because for someone like him it's a completely selfless thing to do as they knew each other but never had much of a relationship at all and surely they didn't have sex. It's one of the few points you can use to argue with people who still hate him after ADWD and are like 'yeah well he got through some well-deserved shit (???) and he's still the same stupid self-centered asshole that he was before deep down' which is just ludicrous (and it also shows that they skimmed because seriously, no), so.. meh. Idk. I guess we'll see, but the more Ros we see the more paranoid I get that I might be right. ;)