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happy easter! and I'm talking SPN! and vampire porn! and other things.
1 . Happy Easter everyone! :D I hope you’re all hoarding the chocolate I’m not ;) aaand happy GOT day to everyone who actually watches it today – may you all survive it.
2. So, since (as usual) I haven’t updated as much as I thought I would, run-down of what’s been happening here: I solved one problem I was having for the last final I was supposed to have, so it’s three left now and then it’s just the thesis (which hopefully will make me enthusiastic again about this whole school deal because right now I’m just burned out) \o/ also, I thought the elections mess couldn’t get any worse, but apparently it is! And we might vote again this year! And I can bet you money I won’t like the result, since my last illusions that people vote with their heads in this country has been totally shattered. Anyway, welcome to the only country in the world where you stay in charge even if you lose the elections and when I can’t even be pissed about it because the alternatives are all worse. Oh, and B. wants to be President of the Republic. If you’re laughing at that, it’s exactly what you should do.
Also, Mumford and Sons were glorious :DDD which is pretty much the best thing that happened in the last month.
Meanwhile, I’m currently at my grandparents’ for the holidays, using the internet stealthily and wondering if my grandmother will ever understand that no one ever said that it’s your duty to make your own life miserable.
3. Also, since I’m set on getting back on track and starting doing episode reviews again from next week (at least for GOT and SPN, since I’m not sure I have enough shit to say about the vampire porn to do an entire post each episode) I’m catching up with some quick reactions to the last stuff here, so next week I can start anew. ;)
So, vampire porn: so, uuuuhm, the thing is, I have no fucking clue what they’re trying to accomplish this season but there are some things I know for sure:
a) soulless!Elena has to go now. I could stand Sam being soulless for three episodes on SPN before wanting to strangle him, but she hasn’t lasted even that long. Just. NO. Nina is awesome at it but no. I can’t do it. I actually love Elena but like this I just want to slap her in the face forever.
b) no one in this show deserves current!Damon except maybe his brother, and when I start considering shipping Damon/Stefan… well, no, there’s like one time each year when it happens, but still.
c) other than Damon, the best thing right now is Matt who clearly has been MIA since Jeremy died – which I still don’t get if I like it or not.
d) but I know that Shane made me miss Alaric every-fucking-second.
e) Alaric’s ghost is there stalking Damon and wishing he could get drunk even if he’s dead because you can count on the fingers of one hand the number of people who are behaving with some sense (SERIOUSLY BONNIE WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN DOING).
f) Someone please just let poor Rebekah be human. Also since when Katherine is mad in love with Elijah? Wasn’t she in love with Stefan? Anyway, Elijah is still my favorite thing about the originals. Also I wish I was more invested so I could actually have opinions about Klaus and Caroline but the only opinion I have is that obviously Jeremy Carver and Julie Plec brainstormed seasons together because the last episode the Klaus/Caroline thing had too much in common with Dean and Cas in 8x17 xDD
g) However, my favorite episode this season after the second is without doubt the one where Damon and Lexi hooked up in the seventies and there were Patti Smith cover bands. The end. Show, please, I never asked plot from you, but ffs please Elena turn that switch back on.
SPN: did I say last time that this show hasn’t been this consistently good since S5? Because it totally hasn’t. Carver please love me. Sadly I missed discussing shit for like months, but anyway: I love the men of letters thing (and OHMYGOD HENRY WINCHESTER <33), I like that they finally have a home base – btw, I cried at the episode where Dean got his own room, call me a sap. I also like that this is the first year since S5 where filler episodes don’t make me want to fall asleep on my own keyboard – even if they’re filler, they’re surprisingly good. And it’s obvious that someone is at least trying to work with some continuity here, trying being the key word, but since I had the distinct impression that 50% of S6/7 was planned at completely fucking random this is already good enough for me. I also have the distinct impression that Carver is trying to straighten kinks out from the previous run – starting from Castiel – , but this’d imply discussing spoilers for the next episode so I’m gonna shut up until next week. Anyway, stuff that I’d like to put my two cents on just so that I have them somewhere:
a) there’s nothing not flawless about Dean’s characterization this year. I haven’t been so madly in love with Dean Winchester since ages. I lovelovelove that after he got out of Purgatory he actually… I don’t want to say grew up, but he’s really coming into himself and he’s miles ahead from S6/7 in terms of character development so can I just draw hearts everywhere? I love that he actually asks Cas to talk about his feelings, that he’s getting his own space, that he actually understood that you don’t always have to kill monsters and that he’s letting himself be a total geek and EVERYTHING, all right. I also like his vampire bff and I really hope that they a) reconnect, b) that it doesn’t end badly. Not that I’m crazy about Benny the way I was about poor dear Balthazar, but these people need friends, all right?
b) same about Sam – he’s not coming into himself because he never was as emotionally stunted as his brother but I like that he knows what he wants and that he has plans for the light at the end of the tunnel and that he might start the men of letters thing again because that’s just so perfect for him ;_;
c) I thought I hated Zachariah when he was around. I can safely say that I detest Naomi a lot more xDDD interesting character, nothing to say, but at the opening of 8x17 I think I might have thrown up in my mouth and – I can’t, okay. Nope. Is it possible that when you think that nothing can get worse with angels then IT GETS WORSE? Like, you thought Zachariah was bad but Michael was worse, but then Raphael was worse than Michael and NOW NAOMI JUST – can’t.
d) Before going all capslock about what everyone suspects, two words about the Meg and Cas thing in 8x17, since I’ve spent the last two weeks trying to avoid wank on tumblr and wondering how the heck people think that since it was made *canon* then Dean/Cas is a sank ship (seriously). First: I always thought that this Meg-and-Cas-hook-up thing was OOC from the first moment it happened in 6x10, and I suspect that it happened just because Sera Gamble thought that the demon/angel thing was a good idea, but it made no fucking sense then and it makes no sense now (and same re S7, but I actually could get behind it better in S7 – anyway, not the point). That said, it happened and they actually made out, so I don’t get why people complain that they’re canon *now* - they’ve been canon since then if we stick to saying that if you make out on screen with someone you’re somewhat canon. So: they decided to kill Meg off and Cas was in the episode – they had to address it or it’d have been a glaring continuity error. I’m not entirely sure I get the reasoning behind Meg dying that way or the whole Cas is her unicorn thing (srsly?) – like, with enough meta explaining it to me I suppose I can see it, but I shouldn’t need meta to see it, but as stated I thought the entire thing was OOC from the beginning so if it ends OOC then who even cares. Also: it took Cas a while to get that Meg wanted to do the deed with him and he didn’t even accept – and tbh if they want to state that he can/could/would want to have sex with someone and that he thinks that making out with her was a nice thing but it’s done with now, then fine, okay, I can roll with it. Considering what happened ten minutes later I really, really do not get how it sinks the D/C ships – like, sorry, Dean can have female love interests but be into Cas no problem but Cas can’t be attracted to other women while being into Dean more than he’s into anything else? Come on.
e) Now that we got here: crypt scene. Seriously. Like. Uhm. So. Cas spent who knows how much time killing Dean enough times to fill an entire warehouse until he looked like some kind of robot while doing it and HE STILL COULDN’T DO IT. ACTUALLY HE OPPOSED IT THAT MUCH THAT NAOMI ENDED UP GIVING HIM THE CHOICE TO DO IT AND HE STILL COULD-NOT-DO-IT. How is this ship sinking? No, seriously. Also: I NEED YOU? Like, okay, sure, totally not begging for my life, just saying that? And we want to talk about Dean clutching to Cas’s coat/wrist even when he thought Cas was going to kill him? (Let’s not get into how Cas touched Dean at the end… haha. Yeah. Sure. How does anyone not think that Dean isn’t the most important thing for Cas ever is past me.) And Cas’s face at the end? I just – those two. SERIOUSLY. Though Cas being like ‘I don’t know what broke the connection’… yeah, sure, I’m pretty positive that everyone in front of the tv was shouting ‘*DEAN*, YOU IDIOT’, which – seriously. I don’t want to get into the-power-of-love meta territory because this is getting cheesy enough, but I can’t even with my feelings. Also, if Cas has to protect the darned tablet from Dean it means that if Sam can close Hell’s gates then Dean can close Heaven’s and that’s actually half the reason Naomi wants him dead? I mean, I’m pretty sure that she had Cas practicing killing Dean because it was what would destroy him most on every level, but she probably also needs *Dean* dead, so she was killing two birds with one stone? Damn, I want to cry just thinking about it, sigh.
Also, the exclusively shipper angle: okay, so. I don’t usually ever put any cents into anything I ship becoming canon unless it’s HBO because the (slash) stuff I ship is never possible-canon material. Except that the last time I got the vibes I’m getting from Dean/Cas right now… it was Jane and Joanie in Deadwood, and everyone who saw it knows how it ended. Okay, no, I had it from Jimmy and Richard in Boardwalk Empire too but ER YOU KNOW WHAT if you’ve seen it, but I still think that if they hadn’t done that thing it might have happened, but whatever. Point is, first we get that Purgatory scene which – uhm, yeah, I showed it to a friend who quit the show in S7 and she was like ‘jesus are they hooking up or what’ –, then Dean actually wants to talk about his feelings and shit and he actually treats Cas the way he probably regrets he hadn’t during S6, THEN Cas gets tortured/brainwashed with killing Dean a thousand times over and then he still doesn’t do it when Dean is like clutching at his hands while saying that he needs him? And other than that, most filler episodes in this season featured a human/supernatural romance (or supernatural/supernatural, but anyway not a human/human one) where the supernatural part is under someone’s control and does bad things against their will? Oh, and Misha is a regular next season? I mean, I don’t want to say it’s a sure thing and this might all be looking too much into it, but that writing is so blatant that I can’t help thinking that they’re at least considering it and making sure they can go there if they want to. (Not to mention that apparently in 8x17 it was supposed to be I love you, but I think that the need you was best in those circumstances, so. Still.) Not to mention that the showrunner is the person who wrote a) Free to be You and Me and b) Point of No Return, which was the feast of Dean/Cas innuendo, so… I mean, if it still had been Sera I’d have never even considered it, but right now I might be? Just, I don’t want to look like a deluded shipper and I won’t feel betrayed if it doesn’t happen – I never shipped D/C because I thought it’d be canon one day – but I’m really starting to suspect it could happen. And that said, I really want to see what happens if/when Dean meets Naomi. I don’t see it going down well.
This is probably not even half of what I’d have discussed if I had had fucking time in the last four months or so, but everything else that comes to mind right now isn’t important enough or has been discussed to death, so I’ll just leave here the above (which are the things I want written down anyway). Did I say I’m loving this season? Because I am. <3 ah, no wait, actually: please let me have Crowley forever. The end.
4. Since we were discussing tv: I’m going to (try to) do GOT recap posts this year DECENTLY, also because I promised
lenina20 that I would warn her beforehand (<3). I’m not sure of when I’ll manage to watch the premiere because here the internet is random and I can’t be on it if anyone calls on the phone, which means that it’s gonna take me ages to download it, but at worst it should be tomorrow evening, so the review will happen either late tomorrow or early on the 2nd, unless I manage to watch it in the morning for some kind of miracle. That said: I’m pretty sure that everyone around here knows the deal, but since I spent the last month blocking idiots on tumblr arguing that Theon deserves horrible things, I’ll just state again that Theon bashing is nowhere near okay around these parts. Also, I’ll probably endlessly complain about Robb’s storyline this year because the few things I know aren’t making me happy, so uhm, just thread carefully because I’ll probably go heavy on that. xD
5. Also: anyone has switched to the new friends page? Is it as horrible as it seems from the description? Because I already miss the old update page, and since it hasn’t forces me to switch to the new friends page yet I’m delaying, but I’d like to hear some opinions before considering it. Not sure I’ll do it until they force me though.
6. And after this Easter novel, I should probably go get ready for lunch (and after that hopefully I’ll finish an 8x17 coda which has been nagging at me since I watched the damn thing but that I couldn’t start until yesterday…) Again, I hope you’re all drowning in chocolate :D (and expect some late comments because as stated since anytime someone calls on the landline I have to disconnect the internet I gave up on checking the friends page, but tomorrow I shall catch up. :D)
2. So, since (as usual) I haven’t updated as much as I thought I would, run-down of what’s been happening here: I solved one problem I was having for the last final I was supposed to have, so it’s three left now and then it’s just the thesis (which hopefully will make me enthusiastic again about this whole school deal because right now I’m just burned out) \o/ also, I thought the elections mess couldn’t get any worse, but apparently it is! And we might vote again this year! And I can bet you money I won’t like the result, since my last illusions that people vote with their heads in this country has been totally shattered. Anyway, welcome to the only country in the world where you stay in charge even if you lose the elections and when I can’t even be pissed about it because the alternatives are all worse. Oh, and B. wants to be President of the Republic. If you’re laughing at that, it’s exactly what you should do.
Also, Mumford and Sons were glorious :DDD which is pretty much the best thing that happened in the last month.
Meanwhile, I’m currently at my grandparents’ for the holidays, using the internet stealthily and wondering if my grandmother will ever understand that no one ever said that it’s your duty to make your own life miserable.
3. Also, since I’m set on getting back on track and starting doing episode reviews again from next week (at least for GOT and SPN, since I’m not sure I have enough shit to say about the vampire porn to do an entire post each episode) I’m catching up with some quick reactions to the last stuff here, so next week I can start anew. ;)
So, vampire porn: so, uuuuhm, the thing is, I have no fucking clue what they’re trying to accomplish this season but there are some things I know for sure:
a) soulless!Elena has to go now. I could stand Sam being soulless for three episodes on SPN before wanting to strangle him, but she hasn’t lasted even that long. Just. NO. Nina is awesome at it but no. I can’t do it. I actually love Elena but like this I just want to slap her in the face forever.
b) no one in this show deserves current!Damon except maybe his brother, and when I start considering shipping Damon/Stefan… well, no, there’s like one time each year when it happens, but still.
c) other than Damon, the best thing right now is Matt who clearly has been MIA since Jeremy died – which I still don’t get if I like it or not.
d) but I know that Shane made me miss Alaric every-fucking-second.
e) Alaric’s ghost is there stalking Damon and wishing he could get drunk even if he’s dead because you can count on the fingers of one hand the number of people who are behaving with some sense (SERIOUSLY BONNIE WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN DOING).
f) Someone please just let poor Rebekah be human. Also since when Katherine is mad in love with Elijah? Wasn’t she in love with Stefan? Anyway, Elijah is still my favorite thing about the originals. Also I wish I was more invested so I could actually have opinions about Klaus and Caroline but the only opinion I have is that obviously Jeremy Carver and Julie Plec brainstormed seasons together because the last episode the Klaus/Caroline thing had too much in common with Dean and Cas in 8x17 xDD
g) However, my favorite episode this season after the second is without doubt the one where Damon and Lexi hooked up in the seventies and there were Patti Smith cover bands. The end. Show, please, I never asked plot from you, but ffs please Elena turn that switch back on.
SPN: did I say last time that this show hasn’t been this consistently good since S5? Because it totally hasn’t. Carver please love me. Sadly I missed discussing shit for like months, but anyway: I love the men of letters thing (and OHMYGOD HENRY WINCHESTER <33), I like that they finally have a home base – btw, I cried at the episode where Dean got his own room, call me a sap. I also like that this is the first year since S5 where filler episodes don’t make me want to fall asleep on my own keyboard – even if they’re filler, they’re surprisingly good. And it’s obvious that someone is at least trying to work with some continuity here, trying being the key word, but since I had the distinct impression that 50% of S6/7 was planned at completely fucking random this is already good enough for me. I also have the distinct impression that Carver is trying to straighten kinks out from the previous run – starting from Castiel – , but this’d imply discussing spoilers for the next episode so I’m gonna shut up until next week. Anyway, stuff that I’d like to put my two cents on just so that I have them somewhere:
a) there’s nothing not flawless about Dean’s characterization this year. I haven’t been so madly in love with Dean Winchester since ages. I lovelovelove that after he got out of Purgatory he actually… I don’t want to say grew up, but he’s really coming into himself and he’s miles ahead from S6/7 in terms of character development so can I just draw hearts everywhere? I love that he actually asks Cas to talk about his feelings, that he’s getting his own space, that he actually understood that you don’t always have to kill monsters and that he’s letting himself be a total geek and EVERYTHING, all right. I also like his vampire bff and I really hope that they a) reconnect, b) that it doesn’t end badly. Not that I’m crazy about Benny the way I was about poor dear Balthazar, but these people need friends, all right?
b) same about Sam – he’s not coming into himself because he never was as emotionally stunted as his brother but I like that he knows what he wants and that he has plans for the light at the end of the tunnel and that he might start the men of letters thing again because that’s just so perfect for him ;_;
c) I thought I hated Zachariah when he was around. I can safely say that I detest Naomi a lot more xDDD interesting character, nothing to say, but at the opening of 8x17 I think I might have thrown up in my mouth and – I can’t, okay. Nope. Is it possible that when you think that nothing can get worse with angels then IT GETS WORSE? Like, you thought Zachariah was bad but Michael was worse, but then Raphael was worse than Michael and NOW NAOMI JUST – can’t.
d) Before going all capslock about what everyone suspects, two words about the Meg and Cas thing in 8x17, since I’ve spent the last two weeks trying to avoid wank on tumblr and wondering how the heck people think that since it was made *canon* then Dean/Cas is a sank ship (seriously). First: I always thought that this Meg-and-Cas-hook-up thing was OOC from the first moment it happened in 6x10, and I suspect that it happened just because Sera Gamble thought that the demon/angel thing was a good idea, but it made no fucking sense then and it makes no sense now (and same re S7, but I actually could get behind it better in S7 – anyway, not the point). That said, it happened and they actually made out, so I don’t get why people complain that they’re canon *now* - they’ve been canon since then if we stick to saying that if you make out on screen with someone you’re somewhat canon. So: they decided to kill Meg off and Cas was in the episode – they had to address it or it’d have been a glaring continuity error. I’m not entirely sure I get the reasoning behind Meg dying that way or the whole Cas is her unicorn thing (srsly?) – like, with enough meta explaining it to me I suppose I can see it, but I shouldn’t need meta to see it, but as stated I thought the entire thing was OOC from the beginning so if it ends OOC then who even cares. Also: it took Cas a while to get that Meg wanted to do the deed with him and he didn’t even accept – and tbh if they want to state that he can/could/would want to have sex with someone and that he thinks that making out with her was a nice thing but it’s done with now, then fine, okay, I can roll with it. Considering what happened ten minutes later I really, really do not get how it sinks the D/C ships – like, sorry, Dean can have female love interests but be into Cas no problem but Cas can’t be attracted to other women while being into Dean more than he’s into anything else? Come on.
e) Now that we got here: crypt scene. Seriously. Like. Uhm. So. Cas spent who knows how much time killing Dean enough times to fill an entire warehouse until he looked like some kind of robot while doing it and HE STILL COULDN’T DO IT. ACTUALLY HE OPPOSED IT THAT MUCH THAT NAOMI ENDED UP GIVING HIM THE CHOICE TO DO IT AND HE STILL COULD-NOT-DO-IT. How is this ship sinking? No, seriously. Also: I NEED YOU? Like, okay, sure, totally not begging for my life, just saying that? And we want to talk about Dean clutching to Cas’s coat/wrist even when he thought Cas was going to kill him? (Let’s not get into how Cas touched Dean at the end… haha. Yeah. Sure. How does anyone not think that Dean isn’t the most important thing for Cas ever is past me.) And Cas’s face at the end? I just – those two. SERIOUSLY. Though Cas being like ‘I don’t know what broke the connection’… yeah, sure, I’m pretty positive that everyone in front of the tv was shouting ‘*DEAN*, YOU IDIOT’, which – seriously. I don’t want to get into the-power-of-love meta territory because this is getting cheesy enough, but I can’t even with my feelings. Also, if Cas has to protect the darned tablet from Dean it means that if Sam can close Hell’s gates then Dean can close Heaven’s and that’s actually half the reason Naomi wants him dead? I mean, I’m pretty sure that she had Cas practicing killing Dean because it was what would destroy him most on every level, but she probably also needs *Dean* dead, so she was killing two birds with one stone? Damn, I want to cry just thinking about it, sigh.
Also, the exclusively shipper angle: okay, so. I don’t usually ever put any cents into anything I ship becoming canon unless it’s HBO because the (slash) stuff I ship is never possible-canon material. Except that the last time I got the vibes I’m getting from Dean/Cas right now… it was Jane and Joanie in Deadwood, and everyone who saw it knows how it ended. Okay, no, I had it from Jimmy and Richard in Boardwalk Empire too but ER YOU KNOW WHAT if you’ve seen it, but I still think that if they hadn’t done that thing it might have happened, but whatever. Point is, first we get that Purgatory scene which – uhm, yeah, I showed it to a friend who quit the show in S7 and she was like ‘jesus are they hooking up or what’ –, then Dean actually wants to talk about his feelings and shit and he actually treats Cas the way he probably regrets he hadn’t during S6, THEN Cas gets tortured/brainwashed with killing Dean a thousand times over and then he still doesn’t do it when Dean is like clutching at his hands while saying that he needs him? And other than that, most filler episodes in this season featured a human/supernatural romance (or supernatural/supernatural, but anyway not a human/human one) where the supernatural part is under someone’s control and does bad things against their will? Oh, and Misha is a regular next season? I mean, I don’t want to say it’s a sure thing and this might all be looking too much into it, but that writing is so blatant that I can’t help thinking that they’re at least considering it and making sure they can go there if they want to. (Not to mention that apparently in 8x17 it was supposed to be I love you, but I think that the need you was best in those circumstances, so. Still.) Not to mention that the showrunner is the person who wrote a) Free to be You and Me and b) Point of No Return, which was the feast of Dean/Cas innuendo, so… I mean, if it still had been Sera I’d have never even considered it, but right now I might be? Just, I don’t want to look like a deluded shipper and I won’t feel betrayed if it doesn’t happen – I never shipped D/C because I thought it’d be canon one day – but I’m really starting to suspect it could happen. And that said, I really want to see what happens if/when Dean meets Naomi. I don’t see it going down well.
This is probably not even half of what I’d have discussed if I had had fucking time in the last four months or so, but everything else that comes to mind right now isn’t important enough or has been discussed to death, so I’ll just leave here the above (which are the things I want written down anyway). Did I say I’m loving this season? Because I am. <3 ah, no wait, actually: please let me have Crowley forever. The end.
4. Since we were discussing tv: I’m going to (try to) do GOT recap posts this year DECENTLY, also because I promised
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5. Also: anyone has switched to the new friends page? Is it as horrible as it seems from the description? Because I already miss the old update page, and since it hasn’t forces me to switch to the new friends page yet I’m delaying, but I’d like to hear some opinions before considering it. Not sure I’ll do it until they force me though.
6. And after this Easter novel, I should probably go get ready for lunch (and after that hopefully I’ll finish an 8x17 coda which has been nagging at me since I watched the damn thing but that I couldn’t start until yesterday…) Again, I hope you’re all drowning in chocolate :D (and expect some late comments because as stated since anytime someone calls on the landline I have to disconnect the internet I gave up on checking the friends page, but tomorrow I shall catch up. :D)
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three left now and then it’s just the thesis (which hopefully will make me enthusiastic again about this whole school deal because right now I’m just burned out)
So once you get the Masters, are you going to go for the doctorate too, or is it too soon to ask? (Also, I'm really curious as to what your thesis will be about. Feel free to PM or e-mail.)
we might vote again this year! And I can bet you money I won’t like the result, since my last illusions that people vote with their heads in this country has been totally shattered.
Oh, bb, come to America, where people never, EVER vote with their heads. For me, that illusion was shattered before I was even old enough to vote. What's going on over there? The major news coming out of Italy over the past month or so has been about the new Pope. I haven't heard the "B" word in the news for some time now . . .
Anyway, welcome to the only country in the world where you stay in charge even if you lose the elections
LOL, you. Over here you "win" the Presidential election even if you've technically lost. Or win the re-election, even though you've displayed blatant idiocy several times. *cough*
B. wants to be President of the Republic.
The next Julius Caesar? Nah, Berlusconi is much more suited to be the next Caligula, don'tcha think? Or perhaps the next Emperor Palpatine. XD
But seriously, how on earth is he still eligible to run for ANYTHING? Shouldn't he be in prison by now?
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there’s nothing not flawless about Dean’s characterization this year. I haven’t been so madly in love with Dean Winchester since ages. I lovelovelove that after he got out of Purgatory he actually… I don’t want to say grew up, but he’s really coming into himself . . . . same about Sam – he’s not coming into himself because he never was as emotionally stunted as his brother but I like that he knows what he wants and that he has plans for the light at the end of the tunnel and that he might start the men of letters thing again
100% with you on the growth of Dean and contentment of Sam. Over the past half-dozen episodes, Dean -- nesting!Dean, OMG -- has positively bloomed and I utterly love him. Sam is a born researcher and I have no doubt that he'll start up MoL again. Dean will do anything to keep Sam safe, and Sam will do anything to drag Dean into the safe-zone alongside himself. Really, how long has it been since we've had brotherly interaction like this? (I still have issues with the guys blithely murdering the poor souls unfortunate enough to be demon-possessed -- does no one bother with exorcisms any more? -- but that's another story for another day.)
when you think that nothing can get worse with angels then IT GETS WORSE?
I want to believe that it can't get any worse than Naomi, but Show would probably prove me wrong within a couple of episodes. I remain amazed that the angels have the nerve to put down demons. Like the crap they're doing is any better. (It also amuses me that angels have never been what they seemed at first glance, going all the way back to the "angel" in 'Houses of the Holy.' That's got to be intentional on Show's part. In any case, angel business has been untrustworthy since Zachariah and Uriel showed up.)
I really want to see what happens if/when Dean meets Naomi. I don’t see it going down well.
If Show doesn't put those two in a room together, I'm going to be very disappointed indeed. Dean knows her name now. He's resourceful, and he's got both Sam's research mojo and the MoL library in his corner, so I have little doubt that he will find her and there will be a showdown. (Plus, Dean actually took down Zachariah, so my money's on the Winchester half of the equation.) ;)
I love ya, bb, but I just don't see D/C ever going canon. There is friendship there, yes, and there's been some interesting subtext this season, but there are also massive trust issues between those two. That Castiel resisted killing Dean (after having no such qualms about killing Balthazar, his best friend for MILLENNIA) was a point in his favor . . . but then he turns around to say that he doesn't trust Dean with the angel tablet before disappearing with it. (By then he wasn't being controlled by Naomi, so we can't blame her this time.) Making off with the table is not exactly behavior conducive to getting Dean to trust him again, certainly not to the level of trust they had in S4. And there have been a LOT of betrayals since 4.01.
let me have Crowley forever. The end.
THIS. Whatever Crowley is, he's more than a mere demon, and I cannot wait for the big reveal. (Assuming Show doesn't drop the ball, that is.)
Looking forward to reading your 8.17 coda!
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But I have never been more in love with this show either. It literally was the only thing keeping me going thru my boot camp adventure - the promise of new SPN on the outside. All I can say is, that it's looking more and more like Destiel will become canon, and when it does, it will be the squee heard around the world...
On another note, enjoy your easter bb and try not to space the chocolate out.
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I am really 1000% uninvested in TVD right now. The season is going nowhere for me and between the dullness of Damon, his mixed priorities that I don't care about, Caroline/Klaus, Rebekah's wish to be human (will never understand where that came from), and even Elena with her "switch" flipped (ah, I thought we established the switch was a fiction?) I just don't care about anybody right now. Bonnie's motives make very little sense to me and I wish we could wipe the slate clean. This might be the last season for me, tbh. I thought I wouldn't be able to pull away but this is just ridiculous.
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Agreed with you on SPN S8's direction so far...on the whole I've really liked S8 a lot better than S6 or S7- neither of which I hated, but they didn't have a whole lot of direction. I think S8 has been much more cohesive and enjoyable so far.
On Meg/Cas vs. Dean/Cas...yeah, I also don't get why anyone would think it sunk the ship, especially considering what happened after. Yeah, the Meg/Cas scenes rubbed me the wrong way, and it does sort of frustrate me that a relationship like that is arguably more "canon" than Dean/Cas. I mean, Meg and Cas have had a tiny fraction of the screen time together that Dean and Cas have, and their relationship is nowhere near as developed, significant, and emotional, but because they've kissed and overtly flirted once or twice, they're considered more "canon."
I don't know if Dean/Cas is ever going to be canon or not. I go back and forth on the issue in my head all the time. My gut instinct still is that it's not, but then I look at everything they've done so far and I just think, why lay all that foundation if they're not going to follow through? Maybe, like you said, they're planning to leave it open so they can go there if they want to. At this point, it feels like they've laid so much foundation that they not only could, but SHOULD follow through on it. So I really don't know. If it never becomes canon, I won't be heartbroken or anything, but it just seems like they've teased us and gotten our hopes up a hell of a lot if they're not intending to go there.
Anyway, I'm not losing any sleep over Meg/Cas in any event. Wasn't a fan of it but I'm moving on. I'm far more interested in the amazing character development we've gotten for Dean and for Dean and Cas's relationship. So, we'll see!
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re: the Meg and Cas thing - I will never, ever like Meg. She killed Jo and Ellen; that's unforgiveable. But... I actually rather liked that scene between her and Cas. (Glad she's finally dead, though, and she wasn't redeemed in any way.)
Dean/Cas will never sink. Srsly, not even death could keep them apart ♥
if Cas has to protect the darned tablet from Dean it means that if Sam can close Hell’s gates then Dean can close Heaven’s and that’s actually half the reason Naomi wants him dead - this is my guess as well, and if they "close" heaven, Cas will have to choose where he stays? (on earth with Dean?)
Not to mention that apparently in 8x17 it was supposed to be I love you, - wait, what?!
If there ever is any declaration from either Dean or Cas, I think they'll keep it in the platonic/brother type of love, but they are definitely leading us there on purpose now (and I'm ok with this).
I spent ALL DAY watching Game of Thrones. ALL. DAY.
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