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.... because of course, 'before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure, abandon all hope ye who enter here'.

Did I say that I LOVE that they stole the title from Dante's Inferno? Now I'm nostalgic of my high school days when I'd do that. *sigh* Well, hey, I always said Italian literature > you, at least until the 70s.

1. Okay, so, this show is becoming Good Omens, but I'm not caring much. Maybe I just like the idea of everything being a huge, huge crossover.

2. That said, Crowley is my new love. Apart from being taken straaaight from the book complete with looks, intelligence, English accent, making deals on highways, fancy house and not wanting to help the devil, HE GOT ME SOME GAY ACTION. WELL, FINE, THE DUDE WASN'T EXACTLY WHAT I'D HAVE GONE FORE BUT STILL. Also I <33 that he totally pwned Sam when he was like 'maybe you need ammo' and that he was like MORONS!!! all the time.

2b. Which brings me to, THERE NEEDS TO BE BOBBY AND CROWLEY FIC ASAP WHERE BOBBY CALLS THEM IDJTS AND CROWLEY CALLS THEM MORONS. If no one writes it I fucking will, sometime in the next four centuries.

3. SAM ALWAYS SAY NO TO LUCIFER.

4. And Dean will always be awesome. Lame pick up lines included.

5. CASTIEL HAVING THE DRINKING CONTEST WITH ELLEN AND JO = NEW FAVORITE SCENE LIKE EVER. AND HE DOESN'T EVEN GET DRUNK. HE DOESN'T EVEN GET DRUNK. AND WITH THAT ADORABLE FACE OMG.

6. Also he's a total voyeur. When he spied on Crowley and telling Dean at the phone, omglol a+++++++. And hanging out with Jo and Ellen, awww.

7. Bobby wasn't in there much but he was awesome.

Except when he burned the picture at the end. WHAT THE FUCK. WHY.

8. Picture talking: I teared up. I <333 it from Bobby saying they were drinking his beer so just shut the fuck up to Cas' face and Dean's face and everything else and just, ;______________;. Though one would believe that Bobby would have a color camera... or maybe not.

9. Okay, I'm totally dancing around this, but. The only thing I have to say about the deaths is:

;_________________________________;

Because. Really. Jo never was my favorite character but I liked her just fine and Ellen was my favorite female character and I ♥ed them both and THEY KILLED THEM AND I WAS CRYING DAMMIT. But then they did it in such a poignant way and... hi. Hear my heart being ripped out into tiny little pieces. I just... if I read some bashing Jo comment I swear I'll flip. I. Will. Flip. When Ellen stayed with her and Jo was like 'treat me like an adult for once' I... just... ;_________; and while I never shipped Dean/Jo THOSE TWO KISSES KILLED ME. THE FOREHEAD ONE ESPECIALLY BUT the second too. Jesus. ;____________; and at least they went out in a badass way. But. Still. ;_________; now all the Roadhouse crew is dead and I'm.. like.. no. Argh, I loved the Roadhouse.

Whatever. Let's go on before I start bawling again and end up late for the only class I have.

10. Mark Pellegrino, be Lucifer forever and ever. Amen. I love how he's being gentle and alien and evil as fuck all at once and that he digs on his own and that he doesn't really have minions and then in the end he'll just screw them all. Also poor Nick, he's falling apart. Aw. ;__;

11. DEAR CASTIEL, BE EVEN MORE HOT GETTING TRAPPED IN RINGS OF FIRE MOAR OFTEN.

Duh. I. Died. I loved their confrontation and I loved the tones of it and that they were sorta speaking at an even level and [livejournal.com profile] _izu_ and [livejournal.com profile] lasamy can confirm that I totally called the whole thing he put on Meg. I loved that he was obvs. scared in the beginning but then got calmer and then he totally pwned Meg. I don't like that he can't burn demons out anymore though, the more power he loses the more he gets close to f!Cas, but THEN HE USED MEG AS A BRIDGE AND I SQUEED.

Er. See. The actress playing Meg in S1 had the same face of a friend of mine. Trufax. So for me Meg = MAJOR CREEPS and sincerely even if she changed her face I never was too attached to the character so CAS PWNING HER AND USING HER AS A BRIDGE HAD ME SQUEEING. Sorry. I swear I usually am more objective and she was an awesome character. She just crept me out for years.

12. Cas doing the catwalk = why not moar often, show? Just sayin'.

13. Also Dean, if you call him huggy teddy bear, CAN SOMEONE GIVE THE ANGEL A HUG ONE OF THESE YEARS? Thanks.

14. I think I need to re-watch it because I'm sure I missed a hell of a lot of stuff while flailing and sobbing my eyes out, but still. Loved it. Even if Ben Edlund = evil. Can he and Jeremy Carver write an ep together? Y/y?

15. I realizes I barely said anything about Dean and Sam which I guess is weird but this ep I just felt like everyone else was getting the spotlight, y'know? I mean. I lovedlovedloved their exchange at Bobby's with the beer and the ending scene with Lucifer and pretty much everything else they did (including being totally pwned by Crowley lololol win) but I just felt like the focus was more on Jo/Ellen/Lucifer/sort-of-Cas this round, so I probably would have more to say if I re-watched it.

16. Also when Bobby was like 'battle of Carthage' I was like 'when did this show became about ancient history?' and then I realized that it was a Carthage in the US. *headdesk*

17. Okay, I answered some reviews. Now I'll be running to class because it's the one where if you don't get there an hour before you don't get to sit, then I'll get back and answer the other reviews and watch my vampire porn. Which is going on hiatus too. WHAT WILL I DO WITHOUT THE VAMPIRE PORN AND SPN. Maybe catch up on other shows, duh.

Did I already say that quoting Dante = win? ;)

Date: 2009-11-20 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kros-21.livejournal.com
Porca vacca che episodi0 triste. :(
Alona mi aveva tipo fatto capire che sarebbe morta a Chicago ma non immaginavo che Ellen l'avrebbe seguita a ruota... e cmq non in quelle circostanze. Odio quando la gente si deve sacrificare.

Lucifero è stato veramente creepy stavolta! mi sa che riesce ad essere sexy e accattivante solo quando sta nel corpo di Sam! XD

Dean cmq non sembrava troppo toccato da tutto l'ambaradan... che cavolo è successo? Jensen aveva dormito poco il giorno prima?

beh almeno questo Natale abbiamo Sam ancora Sam e Dean lì con lui... consolazione!!!!!!

Date: 2009-11-20 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gottalovev.livejournal.com
I'm with you alllll the way. the spotlight was indeed on the other characters, which I know annoyed some of my friends, but it worked very well for me. this episode as a whole? awesome, for me. Heartbreaking, yes, oh hell yeah, but there was so much. and Crowley can come back anytime, he was great! lol!

Date: 2009-11-20 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aurilly.livejournal.com
There was an ad during SPN that there would be a Vampire Porn marathon on December 14!!! I've been watching Flashforward at the time that it is on, so now I'm excited that I have a chance to catch up with that! Yay Ian!

This was the SPN episode that I've been watching SPN hoping to get. Markshasha!! It was amazing. Mark Pellegrino is PERFECT. And Castiel was totally adorable. More Markshasha, please.

And since I haven't really watched much SPN, I didn't know Crowley, but I kind of love him.

Date: 2009-11-20 05:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bold-seer.livejournal.com
Except when he burned the picture at the end.

That kind of broke me. And the forehead kiss kind of broke me. And Ellen staying with her daughter kind of broke me. And Jo being so brave and an adult at a time like that kind of broke me. I had to go get a handkerchief.

Oh, it’s always so freaky when you know people who look exactly like some actor! Especially if they’re playing villains.

CAN SOMEONE GIVE THE ANGEL A HUG ONE OF THESE YEARS?

All I want for Christmas is a nice CASTIEL AND DEAN HUG this season, please. I don't care if I get that present in March, as long as I get it.

Crowley is made of win – the homophobia remark! Voyeur!Castiel is made of win. Any Castiel is made of win. But the not being able to exorcise demons – that’s a problem. :(

Date: 2009-11-20 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quantumdoll.livejournal.com
You know what? Crowley made this episode for me. I LOVED him, I said a few weeks back that SPN was quickly becoming Good Omens (my favourite book ever may I add. Thus Crowley is my favourite literary character ever. Then Aziraphale), then they add Crowley? I didn't know whether to laugh of cry at the time, but now I need more of him. Loads more! I don't he was totally GO though, he didn't look like the image I have of Anthony J very much.

Also, I totally with you on the fear of Castiel losing his angel mojo. I swear, if he becomes like future Cas I will stop watching. (I've said it before and I'll say it again, The End freakin' BROKE me. I haven't been the same since)

Should we start a petition for a Dean and Cas hug? I think we should.

Date: 2009-11-20 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catoasapun.livejournal.com
I'm definitely cool with everything being a gigantic crossover. Definitely.

Crowley is my new love. Apart from being taken straaaight from the book complete with looks, intelligence, English accent, making deals on highways, fancy house and not wanting to help the devil, HE GOT ME SOME GAY ACTION. WELL, FINE, THE DUDE WASN'T EXACTLY WHAT I'D HAVE GONE FORE BUT STILL.
THIS X 100,000,000,000,000! I'm totally in love with him. I was concerned that Mr. Shepphard wouldn't do it for me, but he totally did.

Also, he clearly only kissed that guy because he misses his angel. He didn't HAVE to make that deal personally, but he's lonely. That's all.

CASTIEL HAVING THE DRINKING CONTEST WITH ELLEN AND JO = NEW FAVORITE SCENE LIKE EVER. AND HE DOESN'T EVEN GET DRUNK. HE DOESN'T EVEN GET DRUNK. AND WITH THAT ADORABLE FACE OMG.
Just when I thought he could not possibly be more adorable... he gets more adorable. GODDAMN I LOVE HIM SO MUCH.

I also don't get why Bobby burned the picture. It made me sad.

I love how he's being gentle and alien and evil as fuck all at once and that he digs on his own and that he doesn't really have minions and then in the end he'll just screw them all
He is the perfect Lucifer. The writers are writing him beautifully, and Pellegrino is playing him AMAZINGINLY. I don't want another Lucy! NO, NO, NO!

I DEMAND A DEAN/CAS HUG RIGHT NOW. NOW.

Date: 2009-11-21 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
Then, I'm sorry to say that you're going to have to flip on me b/c I was not moved by Jo's death. I didn't like her and I'm not going to act like I did. But, Ellen's death absolutely gutted me wide open. This is why I both love and hate Kripke at the same time, because he gave me one thing I wanted and then took another thing away that I wanted to keep. I'm sorry if you're upset that Jo was killed off, but I can't be b/c I didn't like her.

Date: 2009-11-21 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymacbeth77.livejournal.com
Maremma che tristezza... però bellissimo episodio! ♥
Castiel guardone dietro il pilone è un mito XD
Ma mi sa che Kripke ha seri problemi con gli abbracci... non ha fatto neanche abbracciare Sam e Dean alla fine della quarta puntata, accidenti alle sue corna! >___<
Ma perché io devo sempre rivalutare i personaggi nella puntata in cui muoiono? Prima Shannon di Lost, ora Jo... meglio quando mi stanno antipatici allora XD (e mi è dispiaciuto ancor di più per Ellen che ha anche dovuto veder morire la figlia...)
Crowley è bellissimo! Spero che torni!
Ed è mai possibile che io debba slashare in questo modo Sam e Lucifero? XD Colpa di Pellegrino... mamma mia che belli i dialoghi con Cas!
E ora due mesi...

Ah, tesoro, ma anche The Vampire Diaries va in hiatus? Voglio cominciare a vederlo.

PS: Comunque sono, tra virgolette, contenta che Ellen e Jo siano uscite di scena in una maniera degna. Non mi era piaciuto il modo in cui Kripke le aveva tolte dalla serie: insomma, sono stati personaggi importanti, toglierli e via mi era sembrato brutto. Così sono veramente rimaste nel cuore dei fan (ok, lascia stare lo sproloquio XD Ma odio davvero quando i bei personaggi - per me Ellen lo è sempre stato, Jo meno fino a questa puntata - vengo tolti e ciao)
Edited Date: 2009-11-21 07:37 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-11-22 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hopelessfangirl.livejournal.com
"Also I <33 that he totally pwned Sam when he was like 'maybe you need ammo' and that he was like MORONS!!! all the time."

Man, I freaking love Crowley too. "HOW 'BOUT YA DON'T MISS, MOROOOOONNNNNS????!??!?" XD I'm like 70% finished Good Omens; I was hoping to have it done before this ep, but it didn't happen. That's alright, I'll finish it over Christmas, or on my study breaks during exams. I'll probably enjoy it more if I'm not rushing anyway. But at least I had read enough of it to totally get that SPN!Crowley = GO!Crowley. =D Also, the Bobby-Crowley Idjits/Morons fic totally needs to exist. XD

"Also he's a total voyeur. When he spied on Crowley and telling Dean at the phone, omglol a+++++++. And hanging out with Jo and Ellen, awww."

THIS. ALL OF THIS. Also, this can never be posted enough:


"Except when he burned the picture at the end. WHAT THE FUCK. WHY."

The only logic I can make out of that is that since there was nothing of Ellen and Jo left to bury (or salt&burn), it was a sort of substitute funeral ceremony for them. I know, at first I was like, "WHAT ARE YOU DOING!?!?!?" but having time to think about it, that's the only thing that makes sense to me.

"and while I never shipped Dean/Jo THOSE TWO KISSES KILLED ME. THE FOREHEAD ONE ESPECIALLY BUT the second too."

I've watched the episode twice now, and both times I was gutted. In fact, the second time was probably worse. The forehead kiss was perfect, and the second one as well. I think it was a nice nod to the Dean/Jo shippers without being over the top. I never really shipped Dean/Jo, but I'm one of the few that always loved Jo, so I was basically bawling from the minute she was attacked to the explosion. Oh God, and it was all sad enough with Ellen staying, but then she had to have that moment of realization that her child is dead, and it was just heartbreak on top of heartbreak. I literally don't think I've ever cried so hard at SPN ever. I'm crying typing this.

I can't get over how excellent Mark is at playing Lucifer. Like, HE IS PERFECT. And Misha completely *~*dazzled*~* me with his eyes sparkling in the fire light. And then using Meg as a bridge, I DIED. XD So basically the checklist is: 1) Cas needs to be around fire more often; 2) he needs to pwn people by having an in-your-face, strange sexual tension moment first; and 3) NEEDS HUGS. *VOLUNTEERS FOR THE LAST PART*

Heh, I totally understand on forgetting to talk about the boys. They were seriously an afterthought in this episode. Actually (this is terrible to say), but I almost wish one of them got injured in some way so it didn't feel like the heroes got off scot-free. Not like, seriously injured, but a gash in the leg or something. I don't know, I think this is just the grief for Ellen and Jo talking. v_v

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