Oh god, Theon. ;__; I seriously covered my eyes a few times when the torture was happening. But the screams will still haunt me. :| And this only the beginning, dear god. I imagine it'll probably get even more gruesome, especially when Ramsay starts the torture himself. These scenes are so fucking painful, I don't know how I'll be able to survive them. Get this, though. One of my friends IRL is a massive ASOIAF fan and we basically discuss stuff every time an episode airs. And this time he said that he feels Theon's torture wasn't really shown as severe and gruesome enough because it seemed much worse in the books. He was like "in the books, it said he was supposed to be ruined and unrecognizable". I wanted to punch him. He's fucking unrecognizable at THE END. This is just the fucking beginning, I don't know what my friend was expecting (or what he wants). This was already horrible enough. Jfc!
What I don't entirely understand is what they're planning on doing with Ramsay. From what I gathered, I imagine they're going to be replacing the Kyra/Theon escape with this. As in, Ramsay will actually "help him escape", simply because he wants a good hunt. And then when he catches him, he'll start to torture him himself (punishing him for escaping, even though he was the one to actually instigate the escape). Because lbr, if they want to show Ramsay to be as big a psycho as he is in the books, he needs to be the one to do the actual torture. He fucking enjoys it when he inflicts pain on other people with his own two hands, not when his lackeys do it for him. While I absolutely hate seeing Theon suffer, that's what happened in the books. And I want them to follow that, even if I don't actually want to see it. ;__; Hope that makes sense.
Urgh, the assholes on tumblr make my blood boil! >__> You know when you mentioned that a lot of people hate Cat just because she was mean to Jon? Well, I find that a lot of these people are the same ones that are also saying Theon deserves all this (and even cheering for Ramsay, dear god). What pisses me off is the fact that very often THE ONLY reason for saying that is the fact that it was THE STARKS that got betrayed by Theon. Seriously, if he betrayed any other house (like the Lannisters, for example), he wouldn't get hated on nearly as much (and might even get praised by some). Like, I get it that the Starks are kind of supposed to be the family you root for (the "good guys" if you will), but to hate on every character that ever opposes them (for that reason alone) is ridiculous! I love a lot of the Starks (and Jon), but that doesn't mean I can't understand where other houses and characters are coming from when they go against them (or that I can't like or sympathise with these characters). These people piss me off so much, but I try not to get involved with them, because I know they'll never listen, anyway. They're too closed-minded to see it any other way. >__>
Btw, I'm also curious as to what my mom will think of Theon after this season (she's only watching the show, not reading the books). When I watched the second season with her, she made a comment about how mean and evil Theon was (for taking Winterfell, burning those 2 kids, etc.) Back then I told her that something horrible is coming up for him. She said "Well, whatever it is, I'm sure he'll deserve it" (she said that without knowing what it was, obviously) and I just kinda went "I'm not sure you'll still think so once you see it. Trust me, NOBODY deserves what happens to Theon." So yeah, I'm wondering how she'll react now.
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Date: 2013-04-09 01:26 pm (UTC)Get this, though. One of my friends IRL is a massive ASOIAF fan and we basically discuss stuff every time an episode airs. And this time he said that he feels Theon's torture wasn't really shown as severe and gruesome enough because it seemed much worse in the books. He was like "in the books, it said he was supposed to be ruined and unrecognizable". I wanted to punch him. He's fucking unrecognizable at THE END. This is just the fucking beginning, I don't know what my friend was expecting (or what he wants). This was already horrible enough. Jfc!
What I don't entirely understand is what they're planning on doing with Ramsay. From what I gathered, I imagine they're going to be replacing the Kyra/Theon escape with this. As in, Ramsay will actually "help him escape", simply because he wants a good hunt. And then when he catches him, he'll start to torture him himself (punishing him for escaping, even though he was the one to actually instigate the escape). Because lbr, if they want to show Ramsay to be as big a psycho as he is in the books, he needs to be the one to do the actual torture. He fucking enjoys it when he inflicts pain on other people with his own two hands, not when his lackeys do it for him. While I absolutely hate seeing Theon suffer, that's what happened in the books. And I want them to follow that, even if I don't actually want to see it. ;__; Hope that makes sense.
Urgh, the assholes on tumblr make my blood boil! >__> You know when you mentioned that a lot of people hate Cat just because she was mean to Jon? Well, I find that a lot of these people are the same ones that are also saying Theon deserves all this (and even cheering for Ramsay, dear god). What pisses me off is the fact that very often THE ONLY reason for saying that is the fact that it was THE STARKS that got betrayed by Theon. Seriously, if he betrayed any other house (like the Lannisters, for example), he wouldn't get hated on nearly as much (and might even get praised by some). Like, I get it that the Starks are kind of supposed to be the family you root for (the "good guys" if you will), but to hate on every character that ever opposes them (for that reason alone) is ridiculous! I love a lot of the Starks (and Jon), but that doesn't mean I can't understand where other houses and characters are coming from when they go against them (or that I can't like or sympathise with these characters). These people piss me off so much, but I try not to get involved with them, because I know they'll never listen, anyway. They're too closed-minded to see it any other way. >__>
Btw, I'm also curious as to what my mom will think of Theon after this season (she's only watching the show, not reading the books). When I watched the second season with her, she made a comment about how mean and evil Theon was (for taking Winterfell, burning those 2 kids, etc.) Back then I told her that something horrible is coming up for him. She said "Well, whatever it is, I'm sure he'll deserve it" (she said that without knowing what it was, obviously) and I just kinda went "I'm not sure you'll still think so once you see it. Trust me, NOBODY deserves what happens to Theon." So yeah, I'm wondering how she'll react now.
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