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Well well well. NOW I'm sorta confused. Or maybe not.

 FLASHFORWARD

1. Well. I guess I should say some intelligent thing about this but the whole sum was that Mr Shephard was so damn hot that I didn't care about much else. OMG. OMG. That first sequence with the shower..... duh. I mean. *thud*

1bis. And when he said son of a bitch I was like is Sawyer's ghost around? See what I've got to do to slash? *sigh*

2. Future!Jack/Kate -> fail. Sorry. Didn't like it one bit. In the first part I just photoshopped at least four or five people in Kate's place. And Jack raising Aaron? WTF? Sorry but NO. When he proposed I was like 'Jack where the hell did you go?!' and in the end? Well, I was mighty glad. Seems like going insane is his best way to sanity.

3. No wonder she doesn't want to see him in the future though.

4. Christian Shephard creeps-me-the-fuck-out and he's the character with more screen time EVER.

5. Where did I see the doctor that prescribes Jack the pills?

6. just two words: GO CHARLIE. You WIN at life even if you're dead.

7. Can I just hug Hurley? Please?

8. More in the speculation corner but for now I'll just say that OMG Jack you're a sight for sore eyes.

ON THE ISLAND

TEAM FREIGHTER

9. Where is my team awesome? Two weeks and no Desmond? *iz pissed off*

10. And no Sayid either! *iz even more pissed off*

TEAM LOCKE

11. Uuuuhm, one Benry-less week was kinda refreshing.

TEAM KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOR

12. ARGH. KARL AND DANIELLE. ARGH. ARGH. ;_______;

13. Though, I don't think team!Keamy would have buried them. Uuuuhm. Is there something in the air?

14. I'm liking Miles much more.

15. Oh SAWYER. Couldn't I love you MORE?

16. Regarding the ending, I'll speculate in the corner but Sawyer holding Aaron was awesome.

17. Did Claire go off to the Wizard of Oz with Christian? I've got this idea that we won't see her again soon.

18. Though at least this was a more intelligent way of getting Aaron with Kate than I'd give them credit for.

19. Uhm, Sawyer I love you.

TEAM WE GET THE MEDICAL EQUIPMENT

20. So Jin and Sun did something. YAY!

21. Did Jin go to Sayid's torture afternoon class?

22. But when he called on Charlotte he was awesome.

23. Also, he should work for a dating agency. I guess Dan/Miles won't exist anytime soon.

TEAM JACK

24. Oh Bernard. You're the awesomeness. I love that lately he has moar screentime than anyone else. And Rose totally owns too.

25. Oh my poor shipper heart. Oh my Jack/Juliet. Where did you go? I hoped it was going to last me until the finale. Oh Juliet, can I console you? Argh. It killed me. Poor woman. The only grown up in the whole thing apart from Rambo & wife and she doesn't have a chance. Oh Juliet.

26. Island!Kate was just meh. And since when she's bff with Juliet? Meh.

27. Jack, you're a masochist. I still love you but you are.

SPECULATION CORNER

28. So, my how-Kate-has-Aaron theory: Sawyer arrives on the beach only with Miles and Aaron. Or Miles goes on the beach and tells Kate Sawyer is somewhere near. Whatever. They meet, they have the great shipper moment, he says he's staying and he knows she loves Jack and all that jazz but since the island is not a place to raise a kid and the mother is gone doing dad-daughter bonding he makes her promise she'll take care of Aaron and gives him to her. Which seems to me as I said before much more intelligent than I'd give them credit for even if it's going to make my eyes roll because I don't like it, if it happens. But I don't like the Aaron-in-the-future storyline anyway, so..

29. So that's how Jack started going downhill. I sincerely hoped it was because he was seeing Boone and not his dad but however.

Yes, I'm still THAT delusional.

30. So Hurley has kinda accepted the ghost!Charlie? I'm sure they have long talks.

31. And anyway, I already said it but ghost!Charlie wins. You're not supposed to raise him. HA. Square and straight.

32. Which is true because daddy!Jack creeped me out almost as much as mommy!Kate.

33. Who is getting scarier. My son? Like hell.

34. If she's doing something for Sawyer, she's probably meeting Cassidy. Or it's Clementine-related. I mean, the else could she do for him?

35. And anyway.... why, why does she have to lie? Why? Can't she just tell him and not start with trust me and all that shit?

36. I'm not saying that he wasn't an asshole to her because he was. And I'm not saying that this episode didn't stress all of Jack's flaws because it did. But well. As much as I headdesked, I love the guy. I can't not love him. Though they pretty much killed my only Jack canon ship. *sighs*

37. Can we have a ghost party? Please? I'm in bad need of Boone fixing. Really. It's being pretty bad these days.

38. The downward spiral starting hurt, though.

Overall, I liked it. And at least it gave some sorta answers. Sorta. But Jack/Kate -> NO. Guess I'll go and write denial Jack/Juliet. And shit, Danielle is really dead. Show, I hate you as much as I love you.

Date: 2008-05-02 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] falafel-fiction.livejournal.com
Welcome back, Janie! Good trip?

GO CHARLIE. You WIN at life even if you're dead.

LMAo. Thanks for that comment. You really tickled. I'm not planning on watching this episode (seriously, the Jate stuff might cause me to lose the will to live), so could you give me the low down on the scene where Hurley talks about his Charlie visits? I love that he is pissed about the Aaron thing. He really needs to come and kick off at Jack/Kate in person.

Date: 2008-05-02 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janie-tangerine.livejournal.com
The trip was awesome! Tonight I'm making the detailed pictured post ;)

The Jack/Kate definitely made me sick. While it worked for the story and was good writing regarding him (while it wasn't regarding her but that isn't the point) it completely sickened me for how much I hate those two together so I absolutely get that. About the Hurley scene, it went more or less like this.

Jack goes into Hurley's room after the doctor tells him Hurley doesn't take meds anymore, Jack goes in and Hurley tells him that the O6 are all dead and there's no point in what they're doing. Then Jack told him that it was nonsense, Hurley asked him what he did that day. Jack answered that he woke up, went to work etc, I think that Hurley called him on living with Kate and Aaron saying that it seemed like he didn't want anything to do with the kid. Jack answered that after the trial he changed idea and then Hurley told him that Charlie visits him more or less regularly (and I guess it implied that he doesn't try to avoid ghost!Charlie anymore). Then Jack asked him what they talked about and Hurley answered that Charlie had a message for Jack and that he wrote it down in order to report it right. So he takes out this piece of paper, unfolds it and reads 'You're not supposed to raise him', at which Jack starts getting angry and makes to leave. He advises Hurley to take the meds and Hurley tells him that Charlie also says that someone is going to visit Jack soon, too (which was later proved true since Jack's dad showed up). During all of this Hurley at one point between saying they were dead and calling Jack on the Aaron thing has started crying and there was this single tear out of his eye which was absolutely heartbreaking. Maybe you'd like it if I split that scene only and put it on youtube or somewhere? It was really touching, I think you'd like it.

He really needs to come and kick off at Jack/Kate in person.

Thankfully Jack did all the job himself ;) I'd have never imagined I'd have approved of him breaking up with Kate while half drunk and on meds but I'm ashamed to say I did..

Date: 2008-05-02 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] falafel-fiction.livejournal.com
Oh yeah! I would like to see that one scene. I'm worried though. I don't like the thought that Charlie is causing Hurley to have a break down. Hopefully Charlie and Hurley are on the same page now and Charlie is standing up for what is right, even though Hurley is having a tough time dealing with it. Please don't let em mess up the Charlie/Hurley friendship.

The rest of the ep doesn't appeal to me. No Sayid/Des. Too much triangle. Danielle and Karl's corpses (charming). Meh...Though it is nice that Sun/Jin got to do something. That doesn't happen often.

Date: 2008-05-02 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janie-tangerine.livejournal.com
Jin was a total blast. I loved him, oh yes.

The impression I had was that Hurley was pretty much in the acceptance step of the thing even if he was pretty much shaken and probably didn't still embrace the active way of dealing with it instead of the passive. Anyway, I'm cutting that scene soon and upload it as soon as I'm back from the university ;)

No Sayid/Des was BAD. At least last week there was Sayid. *sigh*

Date: 2008-05-02 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janie-tangerine.livejournal.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC9g1BKjKek

Alright, here you go ;)

Date: 2008-05-02 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] falafel-fiction.livejournal.com
Oh! Thank you. Thank you! I love you. And you are right...I did love this scene.

I liked how Hurley said that hanging out with Charlie was "kinda cool actually" (hugs them on their special bench!) And I loved how Charlies message got under Jacks skin. I think Desmond would approve of the message, brutha! And also...okay I'm gonna go wacko too and say that I think Hurley could be right. Maybe the FFs are purgatory (?). Maybe the 06 are all "dead but here". From the looks of the next episode with Horace "I've been dead 12 years" Goodspeed, not to mention Christian, Charlie, etc it seems the dead can still play active roles. Imagine if the finale shocker is 06 leaving by helicopter then the chopper crashing and sinking in the ocean. Now that would surprise me!

Date: 2008-05-02 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janie-tangerine.livejournal.com
I'd kinda like that. It means ZOMBIE SEASON! And I think I'd love a zombie season muchly right now. So much.

I knew you were going to love it. It was so much a great scene. And Jack was so totally upset at that... well, can't blame the Charlie and Hurley team. I'll help you squishing them together on that bench.

Yeah, seems like we get Horace. Which is awesome but damnit why can't I see the only dead one I actually want to see in his spirit self right now? Especially because Locke needs a push in the right direction. This season has been a total failure in Locke terms and the funny thing is that I want to like him. I really want to. But with the current writing, while it isn't OOC, I can't. Since The Brig more or less. I've just cut him an insane amount of slack up to now but if he doesn't even provide me ghost!Boone I may give up on him for good. Thinking that he used to be my fourth favorite character or something..

Date: 2008-05-02 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] falafel-fiction.livejournal.com
I'd love Boone to return too. Hell, I think I'd rather hang out with the deadies than the living these days. Now Danielles joined the Other side it is definitely the cool place to be. Well, I'm sure Boone is getting a shout out in the O6 press confrence. I don't know if we'll see him though. I'm doubting we'll see Charlie again in S4. Christian seems like the boss of undeadness.

Locke was once in my top 5 favs too. But now he doesn't seem at all guilty that most of his camp have been killed. He told those people to come with him if they wanted to live and then when they came under attack Locke did nothing to protect them!!

Date: 2008-05-02 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janie-tangerine.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's just... apart from the guilt (which has been an issue with me since, what, 1x19?, but that at the time actually was rightly handled IMHO since I never hated Locke for that mess), he really looks like a shadow of his former self. Which is sad because he was a great character.

Agreed about all the dead people paragraph, except that the boss is Boone and Christian just pretends to ;) it'd definitely be cooler there. And I'd totally hang out with them, oh yes.

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