Lost 4x09 - The Shape of Things to Come
Apr. 25th, 2008 10:02 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
janie_tangerineGood way to start your national holiday day.
You know, I was spoiled for both Nadia and Alex. LUCKILY.
FLASHFORWARD
1. Now, was this meant to make me like Ben? Or think he's the good guy? Because well, problem is, it didn't work. He and Locke seems to have switched personalities or WTF and sincerely, I still prefer Locke with everything that it brings. Sorry, didn't work. He just isn't the kind of villain that works for me.
2. OH SAYID. I knew it. I mean, that Nadia was dead. And well, that was the best possible way to recruit him, I reckon. But Ben's smile after he turned? I totally think he's behind it. I think that Sayid is being royally mindfucked. *hugs him* Though... erm... sure, he was in love with Nadia, but did the writers forget that Shannon existed once? *argh*
3. So Benry is Indiana Jones revisited. Not cool. Harrison Ford was better.
4. So Widmore said the island was HIS?? WTF??
5. So, Ben said to Sayid your friend Desmond. Sorry. I just burst up giggling. Sure.
6. Regarding that, I don't think that they're ever killing Penny. I mean, it sounded like they wanted to do the shocker (and it worked because I was totally WTF??), but it isn't ever going to happen IMHO. Why? (and why I hope it doesn't?)
a) If Ben himself was to kill her, they'd probably use it as the Redemption Moment. I'd hate it, but I could see them doing it if they want Ben to be the good guy.
b) I personally think that Ben isn't one that would get his hands dirty like that. I mean, he did it with Locke but there he was totally jealous. If he ever sent Sayid to kill Penny, well, Sayid isn't ever going to kill Desmond's girlfriend. No way.
c) If they actually do kill her, Desmond is toast. And if Desmond is toast.... well, get the consequences.
BTW, no Desmond? SAD. *sigh*
7) So Widmore has nightmares and relies on McClutcheon's or how it was called? Oh well..
TEAM FREIGHTER
8) So the doc is alive there?!! Meh, I hope Des and Sayid are having a nice time, until it lasts.
9) No Desmond -> LOSE.
TEAM JACK
10) Oh Jack. Please let Juliet take care of you. *hugs*
11) Bernard Nadler > EVERYONE. Seriously. He wins.
12) Oooh. So Daniel knew, huh?
13) The doc had his throat slain and he's alive on the freighter? Bzuh? *gives up*
14) Can Charlotte change her expression?
15) Kate -> nothing to do, huh? *shrugs* She's flirting shamelessly with Jack, though.
TEAM LOCKE + THE ALEX ISSUE
16) Now. If there was a death uncalled for, that was Alex. Shit, good way to toast one of the most interesting storylines they had (Danielle/Alex). Now. Sorry if I always end up on this route, feel free to skip. I've been watching even when my favorite character was the first to bite it and I guess I'd take Des and/or Sayid biting it to make me give up entirely so I'll keep on watching but that? It was way to brutal. Like, good, let's kill off everyone who we can't bother to write a good storyline for! *rolls eyes* I mean, I was already fed up for Danielle but after 8, it just didn't surprise me. And being spoiled was good. I'd have been much more enraged otherwise.
17) Sawyer DID something! And he was totally awesome. Being all heroic and nice with Hurley and all. Oh, I love him.
18) Miles has brains.
19) Looocke....... can I has your Walkabout self back, please? You actually weren't that bad here (I was fed up with Ben too much to take notice) but man, I really used to like you once. Even after, you know. WHERE ARE YOU? Can you just go and eat some paste please? Yeah, I'm in a bad Boone phase lately. *argh*
20) Hurley is a savior or something.
21) Claire remembers who Charlie is??!! *iz shocked*
22) Was Steve with team Locke? Iz he back with Scott now? Sorry, that's all I can think about regarding redshirts.
23) So Ben controls the smoke monster. Mmmh.
24) Thankfully Keamy is GONE. One death I'm totally NOT sorry about. Shit, Alex.
SPECULATION
25) Were Ben and Widmore sweethearts once? I mean, it totally seemed like they knew each other from waaaaaaaay back. Now, that'd be even more disgusting than Christian/Cooper.
26) So Ben can't go back to the island?
27) And why the hell could he do what Desmond couldn't, anyway? I think he's totally lying on how he got back.
28) He asked the girl at the hotel for the date. Guess there's some good time warp in there.
29) How the hell was he in the Tunisia Desert like that anyway? Teleportation? O__O or WTF??
30) I was sad for the two Arab guys anyway.
31) So Sayid lived in California? Iiinteresting.
32) I need a transcript of the Ben/Widmore conversation. I think I had a couple more intelligent ideas while listening to it but I totally forgot them.
meh. If they just didn't kill Alex... and anyway, good way to die hearing that. Ben, if you wanted to save her, that was the worst way ever.
Oh wtf, that really was too much. *sighs*
The only good thing out of this is that it was excellent fodder for a Des/Sayid bunny of doom I had yesterday at a lecture. Which doesn't include killing Penny, thankfully.
*sighs again*
FLASHFORWARD
1. Now, was this meant to make me like Ben? Or think he's the good guy? Because well, problem is, it didn't work. He and Locke seems to have switched personalities or WTF and sincerely, I still prefer Locke with everything that it brings. Sorry, didn't work. He just isn't the kind of villain that works for me.
2. OH SAYID. I knew it. I mean, that Nadia was dead. And well, that was the best possible way to recruit him, I reckon. But Ben's smile after he turned? I totally think he's behind it. I think that Sayid is being royally mindfucked. *hugs him* Though... erm... sure, he was in love with Nadia, but did the writers forget that Shannon existed once? *argh*
3. So Benry is Indiana Jones revisited. Not cool. Harrison Ford was better.
4. So Widmore said the island was HIS?? WTF??
5. So, Ben said to Sayid your friend Desmond. Sorry. I just burst up giggling. Sure.
6. Regarding that, I don't think that they're ever killing Penny. I mean, it sounded like they wanted to do the shocker (and it worked because I was totally WTF??), but it isn't ever going to happen IMHO. Why? (and why I hope it doesn't?)
a) If Ben himself was to kill her, they'd probably use it as the Redemption Moment. I'd hate it, but I could see them doing it if they want Ben to be the good guy.
b) I personally think that Ben isn't one that would get his hands dirty like that. I mean, he did it with Locke but there he was totally jealous. If he ever sent Sayid to kill Penny, well, Sayid isn't ever going to kill Desmond's girlfriend. No way.
c) If they actually do kill her, Desmond is toast. And if Desmond is toast.... well, get the consequences.
BTW, no Desmond? SAD. *sigh*
7) So Widmore has nightmares and relies on McClutcheon's or how it was called? Oh well..
TEAM FREIGHTER
8) So the doc is alive there?!! Meh, I hope Des and Sayid are having a nice time, until it lasts.
9) No Desmond -> LOSE.
TEAM JACK
10) Oh Jack. Please let Juliet take care of you. *hugs*
11) Bernard Nadler > EVERYONE. Seriously. He wins.
12) Oooh. So Daniel knew, huh?
13) The doc had his throat slain and he's alive on the freighter? Bzuh? *gives up*
14) Can Charlotte change her expression?
15) Kate -> nothing to do, huh? *shrugs* She's flirting shamelessly with Jack, though.
TEAM LOCKE + THE ALEX ISSUE
16) Now. If there was a death uncalled for, that was Alex. Shit, good way to toast one of the most interesting storylines they had (Danielle/Alex). Now. Sorry if I always end up on this route, feel free to skip. I've been watching even when my favorite character was the first to bite it and I guess I'd take Des and/or Sayid biting it to make me give up entirely so I'll keep on watching but that? It was way to brutal. Like, good, let's kill off everyone who we can't bother to write a good storyline for! *rolls eyes* I mean, I was already fed up for Danielle but after 8, it just didn't surprise me. And being spoiled was good. I'd have been much more enraged otherwise.
17) Sawyer DID something! And he was totally awesome. Being all heroic and nice with Hurley and all. Oh, I love him.
18) Miles has brains.
19) Looocke....... can I has your Walkabout self back, please? You actually weren't that bad here (I was fed up with Ben too much to take notice) but man, I really used to like you once. Even after, you know. WHERE ARE YOU? Can you just go and eat some paste please? Yeah, I'm in a bad Boone phase lately. *argh*
20) Hurley is a savior or something.
21) Claire remembers who Charlie is??!! *iz shocked*
22) Was Steve with team Locke? Iz he back with Scott now? Sorry, that's all I can think about regarding redshirts.
23) So Ben controls the smoke monster. Mmmh.
24) Thankfully Keamy is GONE. One death I'm totally NOT sorry about. Shit, Alex.
SPECULATION
25) Were Ben and Widmore sweethearts once? I mean, it totally seemed like they knew each other from waaaaaaaay back. Now, that'd be even more disgusting than Christian/Cooper.
26) So Ben can't go back to the island?
27) And why the hell could he do what Desmond couldn't, anyway? I think he's totally lying on how he got back.
28) He asked the girl at the hotel for the date. Guess there's some good time warp in there.
29) How the hell was he in the Tunisia Desert like that anyway? Teleportation? O__O or WTF??
30) I was sad for the two Arab guys anyway.
31) So Sayid lived in California? Iiinteresting.
32) I need a transcript of the Ben/Widmore conversation. I think I had a couple more intelligent ideas while listening to it but I totally forgot them.
meh. If they just didn't kill Alex... and anyway, good way to die hearing that. Ben, if you wanted to save her, that was the worst way ever.
Oh wtf, that really was too much. *sighs*
The only good thing out of this is that it was excellent fodder for a Des/Sayid bunny of doom I had yesterday at a lecture. Which doesn't include killing Penny, thankfully.
*sighs again*
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Date: 2008-04-25 11:44 pm (UTC)The awesomeness that's Sawyer. The whole thing. His whole being. Everything. I thought I was in love before, ha.
Ben. I don't think Ben can say a sentence that won't have a thousand meanings and implications and meanting and self-refence to the text itself and everything. I think, at least his discourse, best construction of character ever.
I loved that they gave Widmore a voice. Now I don't know who the bad guy is. I kind of fell in Windmore's trap then ;) Where is Penny, btw? Why can't the find her? If Widmore is so connected with the island, then so it's Penny, and that only makes her epic love (and even Desmond's character) more significant. Lots of lot.
Sayid the assassin is back, even if the reason for that is, IMO, horribly sentimental and clicheish. But I liked his question. Who is next? Great!
Smokey saving the day? All kinds of love for that kind of amazing situational irony.
Sawyer/Claire. Sawyer/Hugo. Sawyer/Kids. Sawyer/random people. Sawyer/Aaron. THis equals? Sawyer/Lenina.
I did loved the episode. I'm sorry about Alex, though. And Karl and Rousseau. That is sad. But I liked what it accomplished, I guess. Not only the amazing develpment of a character like Ben, but well, showing us the horror that is the freigher. People still doesn't see the horror that is the freighter. It's the horror, the horror, in the most Conradian way possible.
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Date: 2008-04-26 08:28 am (UTC)I hadn't thought about that even if I'd have had Conrad's children if I could have and damn you're right! That kind of made the point.
My main issue is that Danielle was my favorite female there ever and I thought that Alex/Danielle was a very compelling storyline. Sincerely it grits on me that they had to ditch it that way (and shooting a sixteen year old in the head) to give Ben of everyone character development. Because for how much I can appreciate the character, I'll never be able to like him the way they want me to ;)
But apart from that, I kind of liked it. Assassin Sayid is always a treat (and I'll forgive him for the Shannon forgetting). I also loved the Widmore exchange and well, I hope that Penny is safe. Anyway she isn't ever dying. Not before she meets Desmond. No-way. And I'm convinced that the last scene has to be post-Economist.
The reason for AssassinSayid was terribly cliché but alas, I don't think he'd have worked for Ben for less.
Sawyer/Claire. Sawyer/Hugo. Sawyer/Kids. Sawyer/random people. Sawyer/Aaron. THis equals? Sawyer/Lenina.
All yours! *squishes and sends in your direction* I LOVED him fiercely here. Which was good because lately we were kind of Sawyer WHO? *sigh*