Lost 5x05 This Place Is Death review
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janie_tangerineOh God. I think this is my favorite up to now. At least because I had called it after the finale.
Team dear Locke, right back at YOU
1. HA, I knew he was going to turn the wheel. And I knew he was going to be a sacrifice (hey, I wrote some 2000 words of fic about it or something). I'd have liked to have someone else deliver that line especially after last week but HA. Sorry. I shouldn't be glad about it but after last week? Oh, Locke, cosmic payback right back at you.
2. 'And since when listening to Ben ever got you to accomplish something?'
Okay, I might not be Christian Shephard's biggest fangirl but this round? Oh, Christian, you were my hero. ♥ ♥ ♥ I was like 'yes, yes, yes, YES, YES, YES' at everything he said, lol.
3. Also, 'who is your son?' -> 'who is your mother?' (Des & Daniel, episode 1) anyone? Oh God, I miss the daddy issues, I miss the daddy issues.
4. Dear Locke, did I already said cosmic payback? Well, I'm saying it again. COSMIC PAYBACK. -nodnodnod-
5. Why, yes, I'm totally still angry over last week but this definitely helped me with it. *glees*
Team La vie en noir (why, not exactly rose anymore, right?)
6. AWWWWWW, ROBERT AND DANIELLE. God, they were heartbreaking. Poor woman. Also, clearly in the only one drabble I had written with Danielle's POV I had her shooting Robert after he said je t'en prie. Well, fine, what else would he have said, but still. Also, Robert -> hot. Very hot. He kinda looks a bit like His Prettiness, if you ask me.
7. So that's how Montand lost his arm, huh? Did the smoke monster drug the Frenchies?
8. Poor Danielle. Seriously, poor Danielle. *sniffs*
Team OMGJINILOVEYOU
9. Jin and Sawyer reunion -> best thing of the episode. Aw. I mean, AW. AW. AW.
10. Ouch, I don't rationally want Sawyer and Juliet to hook up but on the un-rational level I'd want to see it. Even if since it looks like they're back next week or soon I don't think there'll be the time.
11. Aw, Jin telling Locke not to bring Sun back. Considering that she's coming anyway, good job.
12. Miles -> I'm from Elvino (what was the name?), not Korea. I love that guy. I seriously do.
13. Josh Holloway seriously looks good. Uhm, and him and Jin are the only S1 people left on the island. Go you indeed.
Team oh shit, another one died?
14. Aw. I sniffed at Charlotte dying. I mean, it wasn't a surprise at all but still. And poor Daniel, he was just so devastated. Poor guy indeed. Also, did she say it was Daniel that had told her in the seventies she'd die if she came back? With that damned accent of hers I didn't get it even if I rewinded a couple of times.
15. I seriously hope they get back VERY SOON if that's what happens to everyone whose nose starts bleeding or they'll find a slaughter when they do.
Team people, Ben is one who likes semantics
16. 'John didn't come to see me, I went to see him'. *headdesk* God, dear Ben, you might have made Machiavelli happy for sure but aaaaaargh.
17. Why, why, WHY do they need to cheapen everything Jack says throwing Kate in? I mean, with all the reasons he'd have to strangle Ben, it's 'what he did to Kate' which was the only good thing Ben actually did in four seasons, for what I'm concerned? Ah well, Jack, I loves you anyway.
18. Oh wow, Yunjin Kim was ESPECIALLY good here.
19. SAYIIIIIDDDDD. Okay, he had like, three seconds but three GOOD seconds.
20. No Hurley -> fail.
Team why, she was Dan's mother? SURPRISE!!!
21. DESMOND?? Well, he HAD to turn up sooner or later, but like.. alone and like, walking easy and fine and dandy just like that and then he's 'oh, hi Jack, hi Sun, hi guy I've barely seen, are we all here for weekend at Faraday's, aye?'. I mean, Ben was the only surprised one but.. ah well. But HI DES. Pretty. Very pretty. *licks lips*
22. I can't seriously buy that only Jack, Sun, Ben and Des go back. That'd be the most unlikely combination ever, Des especially. Maybe he stays and has to convince the others? I can't see him going back like that. Not before he talks with Sayid anyway. *wants her OTP back in the same scene*
23. Uhm, Mrs. Hawking -> wtf much? What's that thing with the candles? If they're going back via something like a devil's trap on SPN I'll laugh my ass off.
24. Also, THAT ENDING? When the fuck is next week? That was completely unfair, damn it.
25. Also, Sun being like 'I've found a new friend for you in America' -> WTF? I hope it doesn't mean what it sounded like because seriously, baby stealing? If it was an Olympic discipline Lost people would own at it.
26. Uhm, guess that's all. Wait, where's Claire? Ah well, I guess they're not exactly telling that now.
Team dear Locke, right back at YOU
1. HA, I knew he was going to turn the wheel. And I knew he was going to be a sacrifice (hey, I wrote some 2000 words of fic about it or something). I'd have liked to have someone else deliver that line especially after last week but HA. Sorry. I shouldn't be glad about it but after last week? Oh, Locke, cosmic payback right back at you.
2. 'And since when listening to Ben ever got you to accomplish something?'
Okay, I might not be Christian Shephard's biggest fangirl but this round? Oh, Christian, you were my hero. ♥ ♥ ♥ I was like 'yes, yes, yes, YES, YES, YES' at everything he said, lol.
3. Also, 'who is your son?' -> 'who is your mother?' (Des & Daniel, episode 1) anyone? Oh God, I miss the daddy issues, I miss the daddy issues.
4. Dear Locke, did I already said cosmic payback? Well, I'm saying it again. COSMIC PAYBACK. -nodnodnod-
5. Why, yes, I'm totally still angry over last week but this definitely helped me with it. *glees*
Team La vie en noir (why, not exactly rose anymore, right?)
6. AWWWWWW, ROBERT AND DANIELLE. God, they were heartbreaking. Poor woman. Also, clearly in the only one drabble I had written with Danielle's POV I had her shooting Robert after he said je t'en prie. Well, fine, what else would he have said, but still. Also, Robert -> hot. Very hot. He kinda looks a bit like His Prettiness, if you ask me.
7. So that's how Montand lost his arm, huh? Did the smoke monster drug the Frenchies?
8. Poor Danielle. Seriously, poor Danielle. *sniffs*
Team OMGJINILOVEYOU
9. Jin and Sawyer reunion -> best thing of the episode. Aw. I mean, AW. AW. AW.
10. Ouch, I don't rationally want Sawyer and Juliet to hook up but on the un-rational level I'd want to see it. Even if since it looks like they're back next week or soon I don't think there'll be the time.
11. Aw, Jin telling Locke not to bring Sun back. Considering that she's coming anyway, good job.
12. Miles -> I'm from Elvino (what was the name?), not Korea. I love that guy. I seriously do.
13. Josh Holloway seriously looks good. Uhm, and him and Jin are the only S1 people left on the island. Go you indeed.
Team oh shit, another one died?
14. Aw. I sniffed at Charlotte dying. I mean, it wasn't a surprise at all but still. And poor Daniel, he was just so devastated. Poor guy indeed. Also, did she say it was Daniel that had told her in the seventies she'd die if she came back? With that damned accent of hers I didn't get it even if I rewinded a couple of times.
15. I seriously hope they get back VERY SOON if that's what happens to everyone whose nose starts bleeding or they'll find a slaughter when they do.
Team people, Ben is one who likes semantics
16. 'John didn't come to see me, I went to see him'. *headdesk* God, dear Ben, you might have made Machiavelli happy for sure but aaaaaargh.
17. Why, why, WHY do they need to cheapen everything Jack says throwing Kate in? I mean, with all the reasons he'd have to strangle Ben, it's 'what he did to Kate' which was the only good thing Ben actually did in four seasons, for what I'm concerned? Ah well, Jack, I loves you anyway.
18. Oh wow, Yunjin Kim was ESPECIALLY good here.
19. SAYIIIIIDDDDD. Okay, he had like, three seconds but three GOOD seconds.
20. No Hurley -> fail.
Team why, she was Dan's mother? SURPRISE!!!
21. DESMOND?? Well, he HAD to turn up sooner or later, but like.. alone and like, walking easy and fine and dandy just like that and then he's 'oh, hi Jack, hi Sun, hi guy I've barely seen, are we all here for weekend at Faraday's, aye?'. I mean, Ben was the only surprised one but.. ah well. But HI DES. Pretty. Very pretty. *licks lips*
22. I can't seriously buy that only Jack, Sun, Ben and Des go back. That'd be the most unlikely combination ever, Des especially. Maybe he stays and has to convince the others? I can't see him going back like that. Not before he talks with Sayid anyway. *wants her OTP back in the same scene*
23. Uhm, Mrs. Hawking -> wtf much? What's that thing with the candles? If they're going back via something like a devil's trap on SPN I'll laugh my ass off.
24. Also, THAT ENDING? When the fuck is next week? That was completely unfair, damn it.
25. Also, Sun being like 'I've found a new friend for you in America' -> WTF? I hope it doesn't mean what it sounded like because seriously, baby stealing? If it was an Olympic discipline Lost people would own at it.
26. Uhm, guess that's all. Wait, where's Claire? Ah well, I guess they're not exactly telling that now.
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Date: 2009-02-12 11:29 am (UTC)Damn glad we got to see Robert after all this time. Surprised me when he tried to shoot Danielle - what the hell happened to them down in that hole?
Montand lost his friggin' arm! TOTAL SEASON 1 ARZT SHOUT-OUT.
Sawyer/Jin reunion was cool. Except I was almost expecting Sawyer to be season-1-Sawyer out boar-hunting or something and say "Shouldn't you be catching fish Bruce?" or something to that effect.
Miles is from Encino. They all be kickin' it snarky like that in the hood yo.
Charlotte did say it was Daniel who warned her not to come back, she wasn't sure about it but it was obviously him. But more importantly, CHARLOTTE COULDN'T HAVE CHOCOLATE BEFORE DINNER. That kind of explains EVERYTHING.
Was that Desmond and Ben's first scene together? I'm racking my brains, but I think it was.
SUN IS An AAREON 'SHIPPER. (Best name for it I could come up with.)
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Date: 2009-02-12 11:44 am (UTC)See, I was hoping to see Boone. We can send Darlton letters!
Seriously, Smokey messed up with their heads or what? Poor Robert. And poor Danielle, but it just backs up my theory that she was the only sane one on the island until and after the 815 crash.
LOL that would have been nice to see! Ah, Sawyer. *sigh* Encino, ha? Thanks, it'll be useful. Sometime.
Evidently, the fact that she couldn't have chocolate does indeed explain everything. Also, I wouldn't have let her have it before dinner either, one tends to be full if she eats it BEFORE, but whatever.
If you don't count the big meeting up in the premiere's last season where they were both in the group yes, their first scene together.
LOL BEST SHIPPER NAME EVER. LOL. Indeed.
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Date: 2009-02-12 01:16 pm (UTC)2. *nods again* THANK YOU, Christian!
9. I know!!! That was so awesome!
12. Miles made me lol, as usual.
14. Charlotte's accent is so hard to understand! But yes, she said it was Dan, so heartbreaking, because I'm sure we'll get to see him trying to warn her and save her, and yet we know he's gonna fail.
16. LOL. Ben's semantics make me happy in a twisted way.
17. Why, why, WHY do they need to cheapen everything Jack says throwing Kate in?
ooh, well put! I was trying to explain why it irked me so much and I couldn't find the right words. *sighs*
21. Why didn't anyone hug Desmond? ;)
22. I agree with you. Also, they had to take extreme measures to bring everyone back - including a corpse - and now 4 (Aaron, Kate, Sayid, and also Frank!) are missing and nobody cares? Kind of hard to believe.
25. baby stealing? If it was an Olympic discipline Lost people would own at it. LOL.
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Date: 2009-02-12 02:29 pm (UTC)2. LOL Christian did get points this round, didn't he?
9. It so totally was!!!
14. Okay, then I got it right. I was like 'WTF???', then I let that go but I figured what it was.
16. Ben does like his semantics... indeed.
17. OH, YES. Glad you think the same thing because seriously? WTF? Aaaaaaargh. Ah well, I love him anyway. I said it, every time he pulls this stuff my head goes like TRANSFUSION!!! and I forget it.
21) I volunteer!
22) Yeah, that exactly. I don't think they're doing it yet. Also because hey, Ben said 70 hours and they still haven't passed so it's not like they are exactly in a hurry... maybe.
25. Come on, it'd be. Totally.
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Date: 2009-02-12 02:11 pm (UTC)Plus, hahahahaha LOCKE, KARMA IS A BITCH ISN'T IT. And isn't it poetic that it's a leg injury too,
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Date: 2009-02-12 02:30 pm (UTC)HA INDEED. Sorry. I can't be sorry for the guy. I'm way past that. Karma is a bitch and take it. *tsk*
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Date: 2009-02-12 02:47 pm (UTC)9. Holy crap, I LOVED that! :D Most adorable thing EVER.
10. Rationally, I want Sawyer to get the hell over Kate and for Juliet to forget Jack ever existed and for the two hot blondes to hook up and live happily ever after. Wishful thinking, y/y?
14. Not too sad to see Charlotte go. They answered all the questions we had about her, so that's all I needed to know. But still. Poor Dan. *snuggles him*
23. Bwahaha! I thought the same thing. I said, "what is this? A séance? ;P
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Date: 2009-02-12 03:55 pm (UTC)9. INDEEEED!!! *draws hearts around them*
10. I'd like that too, except that it isn't going to happen and I don't want things to be messed up when they come back *sigh*.
14. Dan is mostly why I'm sad to see her gone but I'd have had her over anyone else of the main cast.
23. You know Sam and Dean are showing up. ;)
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Date: 2009-02-12 03:51 pm (UTC)REVENGE OF BOONE, LOCKE! TAKE THAT! ;)
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Date: 2009-02-12 03:55 pm (UTC)TAKE THAT INDEED! ;) *high fives*
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Date: 2009-02-12 03:56 pm (UTC)Okay, I might not be Christian Shephard's biggest fangirl but this round? Oh, Christian, you were my hero. ♥ ♥ ♥ I was like 'yes, yes, yes, YES, YES, YES' at everything he said, lol.
I know! He line about Ben was tres bein. Now where is Claire, indeed?
'John didn't come to see me, I went to see him'. *headdesk* God, dear Ben, you might have made Machiavelli happy for sure but aaaaaargh.
Fuck Ben, give it a rest.
That'd be the most unlikely combination ever, Des especially.
No kidding. Let them all go now, so we don’t have to sit through the leftover people being compelled to come back three years from now. Des looked very pretty. His new look is growing on me.
I hope it doesn't mean what it sounded like because seriously, baby stealing?
Hee! She is going to collect all the babies and turn them into dolls for Ji Yeon to play with! Run Walt, run!
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Date: 2009-02-12 04:05 pm (UTC)Indeed about Christian. Seriously, I used to hate the guy's guts but here every word was gold or something. Who would have thought I'd have ended up agreeing with Christian of everyone.
Ben won't ever give it a rest *sigh* which is why I'm thoroughly sick of the guy but however, I'm resigned.
Des looked SO pretty! And no, round #2 wouldn't be good. Also, I'm not ever buying Des going back just because it happened that he passed by.
Hee! She is going to collect all the babies and turn them into dolls for Ji Yeon to play with! Run Walt, run!
*snort* Ha, that'd make the creepiest crack ever. Walt RUN, indeed. Really.
/random: I'm seriously missing Walt. What about him? *sigh*
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Date: 2009-02-12 03:58 pm (UTC)la vie en noir indeed! poor very pretty doomed French crew *sigh* Danielle looked like such a happy woman. it really sucks.
Christian's lines were AWESOME. HA! and I really shook my head at Jack, but then again I always do ;)
they need to get everyone to the island ASAP, because I don't like all of that bleeding *worries*
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Date: 2009-02-12 04:01 pm (UTC)*pets French crew except for Montand* poor Danielle indeed, I just feel for her. Hi, my former favorite female character... former just because she's dead. *rolls eyes*
LOL, Christian owned. And I shook it but then again every time I do it my head goes like, TRANSFUSION! DO NO HARM! and I forget whatever bugged me to begin with. Jack does have the bulletproof way of staying up in my chart indeed.
I don't like the bleeding either. Get back, you idiots! ;)
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Date: 2009-02-12 04:16 pm (UTC)1 & 2: That scene was pretty damn cool. I loved Christian/Jacob asking Locke the obvious. Ben = no good.
6 - 8: It took me like until an hour after the show (seriously) to figure out that when Jin had flashed to Danielle's group that the dead men weren't Others, but the members from her group. That scene where Robert was about to shoot her was crazy. Now we see why she killed everyone. I really wonder what happened to them in the rabbit hole!
Team OMGJINILOVEYOU I totally agree! I was like Sawyer! Jin! Yay! I died laughing when Miles said he was from Encino, even though we all knew Jin was talking to Charlotte. I just love Miles, even though we don't know much about him, but his snark is awesome.
That whole scene with Ben was just crazy, Sun with the gun, Kate in the background grabbing Aaron from crazed!Sun's car, Sayid telling everyone "peace out". When I heard the accented voice in the background when they got to Mrs. Hawking's place(?) I had no idea it was Desmond. But yeah, always so very nice to see him.
Just so much I loved about this episode. I'm either/or about Charlotte, mostly because her story seems unfinished.
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Date: 2009-02-12 08:55 pm (UTC)I usually can't stand Christian but this round? Voice of truth speaking. I was cheering him, totally.
I can't really blame Danielle if she killed them if they all went wacko on her. Poor girl, I can believe she ended up like that. Also if I still think she was the sanest person on that island by a long shot.
Sawyer and Jin ->> ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ because really. Aw. And Miles is totally too good for his own good. Mm, the snark.
Nice to see Des indeed, even if I'd have liked him to flee with Sayid or something. Well, wishful thinking. I can't say I'm exactly sorry to see Charlotte go since I liked her but not to insane degrees, but if it had to be someone I'd have preferred her over anyone who was back there. Poor girl though.
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Date: 2009-02-12 09:30 pm (UTC)I know, right? Then they'd make out on the spot and have desperate reunion sex.
Only in our heads. *sigh*
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Date: 2009-02-13 11:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-02-12 06:38 pm (UTC)Robert and Danielle were so heartbreaking. I loved to see them.
9. Word!
12. Miles owns so much. I don't know why I didn't love him in S4 already...
17. *headesk* Gah I won't even start... Jack, just go back to the island and get together with Jules.
19. I so second that. I need more of him.
lolz @21
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Date: 2009-02-12 08:47 pm (UTC)Aw, what a bummer for those two. They were so nice together.
Miles is GREAT. Last season he really wasn't much around but THE SNARK! I love the guy.
Jack, just go back to the island and get together with Jules.
Yep. Indeed. Thankfully I have mental defenses. Anytime Jack does something stupid my brain is like TRANSFUSION! DO NO HARM! TRANSFUSION! and I promptly forget it.
Everyone needs more Sayid!!
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Date: 2009-02-13 02:41 pm (UTC)Miles is so awesome. I love his snarkyness. He even pwns Sawyer right now!
He should do that. He was way better with her around. Anytime Jack does something stupid my brain is like TRANSFUSION! DO NO HARM! TRANSFUSION! and I promptly forget it. lmao I so should do that too. I'm not really enjoying S5 Jack so far...
Word!
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Date: 2009-02-13 11:09 pm (UTC)And ha, you should. It does wonders. With me it's just automatic, as soon as Jack does something I might not like I go into that mode and that's it, we love each other as always. ;) I'm not exactly enjoying him either but I completely overlook it.
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Date: 2009-02-12 08:26 pm (UTC)I think most people would agree about Locke. "Guess what. The island now really demands a sacrifice. It's you. HA!"
And 'who is your son?' A really useful question for us would be directed at Jack: "Who is your daddy?" Seriously, who IS he?
I thought the young Danielle was very good. And of course it was obvious it would turn ugly the minute we saw the music box.
I loved the reunion too! It was one of the few moments of obvious male friendship in the show, and really sweet. I guess Sawyer can be considered completely tame now! (Can we pet him?)
By the way I am pretty sure Charlotte did say that it was Daniel who told her. And I wouldn't worry too much about her death if I were you: no one stays dead for long in that "place of death".
I still like Ben scheming, and I was amazed at this episode. It was one of the few true displays of emotion on his side in the car, when he yelled at Sun and Jack. I was with him on that one. I think...
And of course Sayid is great no matter what he does. I wonder how they are going to convince him... Since Mrs. Hawking said that it will have to do for now, I assume that they will probably return to the island in more groups, so Jack, Sun, Ben and Des could be just one of them.
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Date: 2009-02-12 08:51 pm (UTC)LOL, I don't know! Who is he really? God, I missed the daddy issues.
Aw, poor Danielle. She already was my favorite female by a long shot before but definitely stays there now. Ha, my favorite male and female character are both dead, what a joy.
I guess Sawyer can be considered completely tame now! (Can we pet him?)
LOL! Best thing said in all of this page. I say yes. Yes we can. ;)
I've had it confirmed so I guess Daniel was trying to change the future. Not a good try really.
I had to say I was with him because that conversation was just stupid. Except that I don't know if I'd agree with him on the importance of what he did to keep them safe when I knew exactly what it was. ;)
Uhm, Desmond convinces him with hot and desperate sex? (Yes, 'course, I wish it was like that...) He has to be back so they'll have to manage someway. Also, I think that if Desmond knew what was going on he would have fled the place on the spot, I don't think he's going to go. Not now at least.
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Date: 2009-02-12 09:34 pm (UTC)3. Oh, daddy issues. Sigh. It's been a while.
8. I know. Sniff.
9. I TEARED UP.
12. He's definately growing on me lately...I didn't like him when he was first introduced, but he's getting more likable.
13. Yes he *does*.
14. Yes, she said that a scary man told her not to ever come back, and that "I think it was *you*." So yes, she thinks it was Daniel on the island when she was a kid. Which is all kinds of crazy.
15. Me too. :(
20. Agreed.
23. HAHAHA.
24. I KNOW.
25. Yes, I also hope she's not going to steal him.
It weird how complacent I've become with the strangeness. I used to constantly question Lost. But now I just kinda sit back and am like, strange things are happening. Hmmm.
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Date: 2009-02-13 11:11 pm (UTC)2. Yes, we miss them. Don't we?
9. ME TOO.
12. He wasn't either but at beginning I just didn't mind him, now he's getting too awesome to be true.
14. Totally. And how can Daniel be scary? *is puzzled*
23. COME OOON. ;)
25. I don't think she will by this point but seriously? Creepy.
LOL, I don't do that anymore either. I'm just like WT...F... okay, fine, whatever, you're on crack. ;)
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Date: 2009-02-13 05:38 am (UTC)9. Jin and Sawyer reunion -> best thing of the episode. Aw. I mean, AW. AW. AW.
True! But you didn't mention the SECOND best scene of the episode (imo, of course!): Ben pulls the van over and tears Jack and Kate a new asshole that they should be thanking him for what he's done for them! I LOVED that!
Speaking of the van, did anyone here notice that the name on the van is Canton Rainier? That's an anagram for something that Locke's going to have to be involved with.
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Date: 2009-02-13 11:12 pm (UTC)Yep, Reincarnation? That was my two cents. Locke isn't ever going to stay dead, I'm betting on it.