got 2x06 the old gods and the new
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janie_tangerineOkay, premise: if we all want to discuss Theon like civilized people, that's cool. If the general opinion is 'OMG SOMEONE KILL HIM ASAP' just don't bother. Just don't.
1. Okay, stuff that I don't FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT FIRST: Dany, sorry, but I just don't care about your revenge dreams. And there was no Jorah to ogle at, so yeah. Sorry. But the 'I'll take what's mine with fire and blood' thing is getting old. Also, your dad was a crappy king and he said exactly the same stuff - just think about it.
2. About more important things: RIOT SCENE EVERYONE.
First, woooaaaah HBO, thanks for all the gore. That was disgusting. But that said, I'm glad they did it like that - mostly because at least it sent our lovely people ruling a reminder that the people they're supposed to rule aren't there to just bow in front of them when they aren't, well, frankly giving a shit. Yes, I was also referring to Cersei being like 'who gives a shit about the smallfolk', and say what you want but if you want to be a decent ruler you should at least consider the poor bastards you're supposed to rule. Then again the point isn't that any of the people up there are decent, but hey, I'm the kind of person that usually approves of riots. (Democracy in Westeros FTW! *cough* or at least, A PARLIAMENT IN WESTEROS FTW.)
Apart from the political rant, HI, MY SANSA/SANDOR FEELINGS, THEY'RE VERY VERY VERY HIGH RIGHT NOW. That scene. YES. I loved that they actually showed it fully rather than having Sandor telling Tyrion or how the heck it was in the book.
No seriously YES to all of that. I feel like I'm not very eloquent but what little Sansa/Sandor stuff happened this season pretty much fit my expectations, so.
3. JON AND YGRITTE = SHOW, THANK YOU. Just. Thank you. Rose Leslie is perfect. PERFECT. And the dialogue. And Ygritte humping him. And HE DOESN'T KNOW YET BUT HE TOTALLY STOLE HER. JUST YES TO ALL OF THAAAAAATTTT.
4. Okay, on to the main issue.
Theon, you totally flawless fucked up mess, let me have feelings while watching you being a trainwreck. I've surfed online some to find out that he's, in the order, comparable to Hitler, an ungrateful fuck, a total and complete dick, deserving of every horrible thing in the world, and that he's such a failure that he can't even cut one head in one go.
Or, just starting at random: that totally was the point. To cut a head in one go you have to be either Ned Stark or Ilyn Payne, andRobb didn't cut the Karstark's guy head in a single blow either - HOW ABOUT THAT . Of course he couldn't cut off Ser Rodrik's head in one go. And mind that he was taking the supposed iron price in the Stark way - I don't think Ironborn give much of a shit about how you kill a prisoner. And when Bran asked him if he hated them all since he was at Winterfell, he looked hurt (ALFIE ALLEN ALL THE AWARDS), because he doesn't hate them. He wants to be one of them (which he never was, and sorry about the OMG HE'S SO UNGRATEFUL THEY LOVED HIM SO MUCH - no. Read the book. Robb was the only one he was close to. He technically doesn't owe them anything and he DID try to get Robb the alliance.) And now that he is in name, he wants to be one in fact, and he utterly and totally fails at it. People were like 'LOL NO ONE WOULD FOLLOW HIM', but it's not.. funny. It's that he's a bad leader and he's doing it the wrong way - the Ironborns can't respect him because he's a stranger to their customs (he had to have Dagmer explaining him how to do it ffs) and at Winterfell they never liked him that much/taken him seriously. Of course it's a trainwreck. It has to be a trainwreck. That's why he's a TRAGIC character, ffs.
That said, people hating on Osha are ridiculous. It was obvious she was trying to sleep with him just to get Bran and Rickon to run. *facepalm*
But still about Theon: I don't really mind that they had Ser Rodrik die now rather than later - it totally proves the point they wanted to make and it doesn't really make much of a difference. It just shows you how truly he fucked up. (PS: he didn't -want- to do it. He wouldn't have if his right hand man hadn't insisted.) And yes, saying that he just wants his family to acknowledge him is a shitty excuse, but as stated, he's been a trainwreck since he burned Robb's letter. Of course he fucks up. And it still doesn't make him Hitler or OMG THE WORST PERSON EVER HE SHOULD BE BURNED ALIVE.
Tldr: I obviously do NOT approve of Theon going all 'YEAAAH I'M TAKING WINTERFELL' but I get why he'd do it (considering that his train of thought is utterly fucked by this point) and I'll just weep my bitter tears and feel heartbroken.
4. Bran: ;_____________________________; (and Rickon too oh god) that scene at the beginning when Theon barged in was just - they really pulled that off, with Bran not even believing it at the beginning. And 'did you always hate us' UGH. MY HEARTTTT. (Also: 'I can't fight for Robb and my father at the same time' - LOOK WHO WAS MENTIONED FIRST. Theon, you just really want to be a Stark. Sigh. You're the most flawless fucked up trainwreck ever.)
5. Errrrr soooo wait, if Bran and Rickon are escaping now... are they doing this without the Reed kids? ....... I'm not so sure it could work out. Brb waiting to judge.
6. Good to know Robb isn't easily trolled. Just tell us that the girl's name is Jeyne Westerling.
7. Canon change approved: Robb and Brienne in the same scene.
8. ROBB'S REACTION TO THE NEWS ABOUT WINTERFELL UUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'LL TAKE HIS HEAD MYSELF MY POOR SAD TRAGIC SHIP. ;______________________________;
And clearly Roose Bolton had to happen. Fuck you, ser. You and your bastard son. (I'm torn between being happy to know they didn't change that part and dreading it. And the worst thing is that the bastard son will get less hate than Theon is getting right now. Wanna bet?)
9. That said Richard Madden you look gorgeouuussss. #shallow
10. I also had shit to say about Arya and about how much I can't hate Tywin and possibly about Tyrion and Cersei but I have class in five minutes so this'll have to suffice for now.
1. Okay, stuff that I don't FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT FIRST: Dany, sorry, but I just don't care about your revenge dreams. And there was no Jorah to ogle at, so yeah. Sorry. But the 'I'll take what's mine with fire and blood' thing is getting old. Also, your dad was a crappy king and he said exactly the same stuff - just think about it.
2. About more important things: RIOT SCENE EVERYONE.
First, woooaaaah HBO, thanks for all the gore. That was disgusting. But that said, I'm glad they did it like that - mostly because at least it sent our lovely people ruling a reminder that the people they're supposed to rule aren't there to just bow in front of them when they aren't, well, frankly giving a shit. Yes, I was also referring to Cersei being like 'who gives a shit about the smallfolk', and say what you want but if you want to be a decent ruler you should at least consider the poor bastards you're supposed to rule. Then again the point isn't that any of the people up there are decent, but hey, I'm the kind of person that usually approves of riots. (Democracy in Westeros FTW! *cough* or at least, A PARLIAMENT IN WESTEROS FTW.)
Apart from the political rant, HI, MY SANSA/SANDOR FEELINGS, THEY'RE VERY VERY VERY HIGH RIGHT NOW. That scene. YES. I loved that they actually showed it fully rather than having Sandor telling Tyrion or how the heck it was in the book.
No seriously YES to all of that. I feel like I'm not very eloquent but what little Sansa/Sandor stuff happened this season pretty much fit my expectations, so.
3. JON AND YGRITTE = SHOW, THANK YOU. Just. Thank you. Rose Leslie is perfect. PERFECT. And the dialogue. And Ygritte humping him. And HE DOESN'T KNOW YET BUT HE TOTALLY STOLE HER. JUST YES TO ALL OF THAAAAAATTTT.
4. Okay, on to the main issue.
Theon, you totally flawless fucked up mess, let me have feelings while watching you being a trainwreck. I've surfed online some to find out that he's, in the order, comparable to Hitler, an ungrateful fuck, a total and complete dick, deserving of every horrible thing in the world, and that he's such a failure that he can't even cut one head in one go.
Or, just starting at random: that totally was the point. To cut a head in one go you have to be either Ned Stark or Ilyn Payne, and
That said, people hating on Osha are ridiculous. It was obvious she was trying to sleep with him just to get Bran and Rickon to run. *facepalm*
But still about Theon: I don't really mind that they had Ser Rodrik die now rather than later - it totally proves the point they wanted to make and it doesn't really make much of a difference. It just shows you how truly he fucked up. (PS: he didn't -want- to do it. He wouldn't have if his right hand man hadn't insisted.) And yes, saying that he just wants his family to acknowledge him is a shitty excuse, but as stated, he's been a trainwreck since he burned Robb's letter. Of course he fucks up. And it still doesn't make him Hitler or OMG THE WORST PERSON EVER HE SHOULD BE BURNED ALIVE.
Tldr: I obviously do NOT approve of Theon going all 'YEAAAH I'M TAKING WINTERFELL' but I get why he'd do it (considering that his train of thought is utterly fucked by this point) and I'll just weep my bitter tears and feel heartbroken.
4. Bran: ;_____________________________; (and Rickon too oh god) that scene at the beginning when Theon barged in was just - they really pulled that off, with Bran not even believing it at the beginning. And 'did you always hate us' UGH. MY HEARTTTT. (Also: 'I can't fight for Robb and my father at the same time' - LOOK WHO WAS MENTIONED FIRST. Theon, you just really want to be a Stark. Sigh. You're the most flawless fucked up trainwreck ever.)
5. Errrrr soooo wait, if Bran and Rickon are escaping now... are they doing this without the Reed kids? ....... I'm not so sure it could work out. Brb waiting to judge.
6. Good to know Robb isn't easily trolled. Just tell us that the girl's name is Jeyne Westerling.
7. Canon change approved: Robb and Brienne in the same scene.
8. ROBB'S REACTION TO THE NEWS ABOUT WINTERFELL UUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'LL TAKE HIS HEAD MYSELF MY POOR SAD TRAGIC SHIP. ;______________________________;
And clearly Roose Bolton had to happen. Fuck you, ser. You and your bastard son. (I'm torn between being happy to know they didn't change that part and dreading it. And the worst thing is that the bastard son will get less hate than Theon is getting right now. Wanna bet?)
9. That said Richard Madden you look gorgeouuussss. #shallow
10. I also had shit to say about Arya and about how much I can't hate Tywin and possibly about Tyrion and Cersei but I have class in five minutes so this'll have to suffice for now.
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Date: 2012-05-07 01:46 pm (UTC)Sandor and Sansa. Ye gods. HE CALLED HER LITTLE BIRD! ADJALKFHLAJHF;AH
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Date: 2012-05-07 11:02 pm (UTC)HE SAID LITTLE BIRD!!!! :DDDDDDDDDDD THAT PART WAS JUST SO GOOD.